Sigil + embedded font variants

troymc · 07-14-2010, 11:58 AM

Does Sigil handle embedded fonts with separate styles/weights?

eg. I've embedded Libertine (below is my @font-face setup), and declared font-family: "Libertine"; for <body>.

But in book view Sigil does not show any italic or bold variations, only the regular font face. I'm fairly confident I'm seeing the embedded font due to the presence of ligatures which are in the text but not in the default font.

However when I put the epub on my Nook I do see the variations. I know some ereaders will fake italic/bold using the normal face, but I'm pretty sure that's not happening since the actual italic face is actually missing some characters that the normal face has and I'm seeing the correct missing characters on the Nook.

Code:

/*
 * ======== Linux Libertine ========
 */
@font-face {
	font-family: "Libertine";
	font-style: normal;
	font-weight: normal;
	src: url(../Fonts/LinLibertine_Re.ttf);
}
@font-face {
	font-family: "Libertine";
	font-style: italic;
	font-weight: normal;
	src: url(../Fonts/LinLibertine_It.ttf);
}
@font-face {
	font-family: "Libertine";
	font-style: normal;
	font-weight: bold;
	src: url(../Fonts/LinLibertine_Bd.ttf);
}
@font-face {
	font-family: "Libertine";
	font-style: italic;
	font-weight: bold;
	src: url(../Fonts/LinLibertine_BI.ttf);
}

I hope that makes sense to someone....

Troy

troymc · 07-14-2010, 04:53 PM

I've attached an epub which demonstrates this. The first page declares all 4 faces of Libertine, the 2nd page only declares the normal "regular" face.

Sigil [& Calibre] shows no formatting at all on the first page, while ADE on my Nook shows it correctly.

However, Sigil [& Calibre] shows the 2nd page correctly but my Nook does not.

Even more interesting is that Sigil does not appear to be "faking" the formatting. The st ligature glyph of the Libertine font is fairly unique in its italic form. Is something in Sigil/webkit intelligently searching for & finding the correct font files?

Troy

Valloric · 07-25-2010, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by troymc

Sigil [& Calibre] shows no formatting at all on the first page, while ADE on my Nook shows it correctly.

This is caused by a bug in QtWebKit which both Sigil and Calibre use. It's also tracked on the Sigil tracker.

There's nothing I can do until Nokia fixes this.

troymc · 07-26-2010, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valloric

This is caused by a bug in QtWebKit which both Sigil and Calibre use. It's also tracked on the Sigil tracker.

There's nothing I can do until Nokia fixes this.

Thanks! and welcome back!

Hope you had an enjoyable vacation.

Troy

tom4christ · 10-16-2012, 05:20 AM

Hallo,
I have problem, that I did Epub by Sigil and embedded my special font for decoration under heading. I converted it to mobi by Kindle Previewer. Kindle for PC shows the font, but the reader doesn't. Menu shows publishers font on, but font is not that specified one, but normal.

Does anyone know what's the problem?
Thanks.

Man Eating Duck · 10-17-2012, 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom4christ

Hallo,
I have problem, that I did Epub by Sigil and embedded my special font for decoration under heading. I converted it to mobi by Kindle Previewer. Kindle for PC shows the font, but the reader doesn't. Menu shows publishers font on, but font is not that specified one, but normal.

Does anyone know what's the problem?
Thanks.

You are resurrecting a two years old thread concerning a different problem from the one you're having, which is well known, so many experts will probably skip it. It's a lot better to make a new thread with a descriptive subject.

As to your problem I would guess that your @font-face declarations don't point to the right font files, or that the Kindle ignores them. Does the epub validate in Sigil? Are you sure that the correct font face (non-italic) is used on the Kindle?

If none of those are the problem you need to post the epub here. If it's copyrighted you can make a minimal epub which exhibits the problem and post that instead. Just delete most of your content, and add a few lines with different font-styles in them. I could inspect the epub for obvious problems, but as I don't use a physical Kindle I could not test it for you.

ghostyjack · 10-17-2012, 11:00 AM

Yep, this should have gone into a new thread, and most likely not in the Sigil forum, mobi probably.

As I understand it, mobi doesn't support embedded fonts, KF8 does, the older mobi does not. So if it is being tried on a K3 - which is what Tom4christ seems to have, then if it is a K3 with the older non-KF8 firmware, then this is the expected behaviour.

07-14-2010, 11:58 AM	#1
troymc Groupie Posts: 161 Karma: 608 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Plano, TX Device: Sony PRS-505 + B&N Nook + Motion LE1700 + Motorola Xoom Wifi	Sigil + embedded font variants Does Sigil handle embedded fonts with separate styles/weights? eg. I've embedded Libertine (below is my @font-face setup), and declared font-family: "Libertine"; for <body>. But in book view Sigil does not show any italic or bold variations, only the regular font face. I'm fairly confident I'm seeing the embedded font due to the presence of ligatures which are in the text but not in the default font. However when I put the epub on my Nook I do see the variations. I know some ereaders will fake italic/bold using the normal face, but I'm pretty sure that's not happening since the actual italic face is actually missing some characters that the normal face has and I'm seeing the correct missing characters on the Nook. Code: /* * ======== Linux Libertine ======== */ @font-face { font-family: "Libertine"; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; src: url(../Fonts/LinLibertine_Re.ttf); } @font-face { font-family: "Libertine"; font-style: italic; font-weight: normal; src: url(../Fonts/LinLibertine_It.ttf); } @font-face { font-family: "Libertine"; font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; src: url(../Fonts/LinLibertine_Bd.ttf); } @font-face { font-family: "Libertine"; font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; src: url(../Fonts/LinLibertine_BI.ttf); } I hope that makes sense to someone.... Troy

10-16-2012, 05:20 AM	#5
tom4christ Junior Member Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2012 Device: Kindle 3	Sigil Epub a Kindle 3 Hallo, I have problem, that I did Epub by Sigil and embedded my special font for decoration under heading. I converted it to mobi by Kindle Previewer. Kindle for PC shows the font, but the reader doesn't. Menu shows publishers font on, but font is not that specified one, but normal. Does anyone know what's the problem? Thanks.

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