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Old 09-15-2019, 07:15 AM   #31
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Yeah, that is why I never bothered with Kindle for PC. It might be easier once it is setup, but I just got used to download the books from the webpage for transfer via usb for an eink Kindle that stays registered to my account. Works on any OS, windows, macos, linux the same without jumping through hoops.
That's what I do as well. It works fine and was fairly easy to set up.
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Old 09-15-2019, 09:26 AM   #32
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Yeah, that is why I never bothered with Kindle for PC. It might be easier once it is setup, but I just got used to download the books from the webpage for transfer via usb for an eink Kindle that stays registered to my account. Works on any OS, windows, macos, linux the same without jumping through hoops.
Yes...this. Even if you don't want to use a Kindle for reading, you can get one used for very cheap. As long as it can be registered to your Amazon account, that's all you need to be able to download directly from Amazon's website.

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Old 09-15-2019, 10:44 AM   #33
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I think you make it sound more risky than it is. I've had Kindle for PC installed for years In Tools, Options I unchecked 'Automatically install updates" and that's all the tinkering I've ever done.

If you like the Amazon market, but you aren't crazy about Kindles, it's worth trying it.
I also do this and have never had a problem or felt the need to purchase a Kindle.
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Old 09-15-2019, 11:13 AM   #34
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I also do this and have never had a problem or felt the need to purchase a Kindle.
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Me too, even though I have many eink Kindles. Using the PC app is just faster and easier.
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Old 09-15-2019, 01:03 PM   #35
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Yeah, that is why I never bothered with Kindle for PC. It might be easier once it is setup, but I just got used to download the books from the webpage for transfer via usb for an eink Kindle that stays registered to my account. Works on any OS, windows, macos, linux the same without jumping through hoops.
Same here. Since I use Linux, Kindle for PC is not an option. Downloading via USB is easy and, if I didn't want to do anything with my old Kindle Basic (4/5) No Touch, I would never have to charge it or use it. But I do use it, partly because Send to Kindle documents choke on the newer Kindle firmware releases but work fine on the old Kindles.
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Old 09-15-2019, 02:46 PM   #36
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The real eInk Kindle is fine. The Fire is just a locked into Amazon "Android Tablet". The Real Kindles are not a focus of these events.

All the other Amazon HW is either "meh" or toxic, esp the Echo, though Google stuff is more Privacy exploitive.

The Amazon Kindle for PC worked on Linux (via WINE) originally, when I still had Windows*. Now I don't have Windows and the older "Kindle for PC" won't work (can't connect) and later ones won't install. So we all use "Transfer to Kindle via USB" option when buying Amazon eBooks and then use the serial number off our real Kindle if we need to convert to epub for larger Kobo or small Sony PRS350.

The other Kindle tools need real Windows too.
(* We do have 2x old games PC, 32bit XP and 64bit Win7. The Win10 Tablet is garbage and only used for PDFs)

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Old 09-15-2019, 03:32 PM   #37
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Same here. Since I use Linux, Kindle for PC is not an option. Downloading via USB is easy and, if I didn't want to do anything with my old Kindle Basic (4/5) No Touch, I would never have to charge it or use it. But I do use it, partly because Send to Kindle documents choke on the newer Kindle firmware releases but work fine on the old Kindles.
Hmmm...I have 100s of Send to Kindle documents, and I read them on my newer Kindles all the time. I just read one last week. What do you mean when you say that they "choke on the newer Kindle firmware releases"? Are you getting an error, or are they causing lockups on your device, or...?

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Old 09-15-2019, 11:15 PM   #38
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I think you make it sound more risky than it is. I've had Kindle for PC installed for years In Tools, Options I unchecked 'Automatically install updates" and that's all the tinkering I've ever done.

If you like the Amazon market, but you aren't crazy about Kindles, it's worth trying it.

Me too. and I have calibre set to automatically suck the books in.
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Old 09-16-2019, 04:29 AM   #39
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Hmmm...I have 100s of Send to Kindle documents, and I read them on my newer Kindles all the time. I just read one last week. What do you mean when you say that they "choke on the newer Kindle firmware releases"? Are you getting an error, or are they causing lockups on your device, or...?
Yep, lock ups. I've been getting them since a couple releases back (both on my Paperwhite and on my Basic). I think I detailed some of the issues in the newest firmware thread. I'll have to try to load a Send to Kindle in to see exactly what the error is. (Now that I've got my old Kindles up here in Idaho, I've just been reading these documents in my Kindle Keyboard.)
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Me too. and I have calibre set to automatically suck the books in.
Yes. In Calibre go to Preferences/Adding Books/Automatic Adding
Here you specify the folder where Kindle for PC places your books.
Next time Calibre opens it will add all books in the directory and the apprentice will do his magic.
Note the books are then deleted from the folder.
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Old 09-16-2019, 10:11 AM   #41
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I was looking at Kindle Fire HD10 yesterday on Amazon -- they are out of stock for all 64G models and currently only have the 32G in black. No availability dates provided for the other colors or 64G models.
I have a very strong suspicion a replacement for the HD 10 is imminent.
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Old 09-16-2019, 10:45 AM   #42
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I think you make it sound more risky than it is. I've had Kindle for PC installed for years In Tools, Options I unchecked 'Automatically install updates" and that's all the tinkering I've ever done.

If you like the Amazon market, but you aren't crazy about Kindles, it's worth trying it.
And....if you didn't have the foresight to already do that....THEN....you'll find the current Kindle app/Calibre/<certain plugin> combo doesn't work on all books, or even most books.

Then you must hunt down an older version of the kindle app. It's fidgety is all I'm saying. I stand by my recommendation that it's best to buy the eInk reader from the store you buy most of your books from.
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I was looking at Kindle Fire HD10 yesterday on Amazon -- they are out of stock for all 64G models and currently only have the 32G in black. No availability dates provided for the other colors or 64G models.
I have a very strong suspicion a replacement for the HD 10 is imminent.
It's two years old, so it's pretty much likely that a new one is in the offing.
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I stand by my recommendation that it's best to buy the eInk reader from the store you buy most of your books from.
Or conversely, it's best to buy your ebooks from the store linked to your device(s).

I was slow to this realization and would buy from Amazon just because that was the link I happened on. Bad choice, I realize now that I tend to go for the direct download and skip the interim download-to-computer-and-import-into-Calibre step. I'm not worried about either Kobo or Kindle doing a midnight flit and I'll future-proof my purchases if it becomes necessary; doesn't seem worth the bother now. But there are still those pesky books bought back in the day where I need to jump through the hoops to get 'em on my Kobo. Lesson learned.
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