Duokan on PW3?

Feitosa · 07-29-2015, 09:26 PM

Anyone tried Duokan on Kindle paperwhite 3 (G090)?

Just took one and to be honest I'm scared to try the jailbreak thing, I mean the PW2's steps with opening the device and soldering thing... I've already broke my old NT with this opening thing...

I used to have some problems with Duokan and it's frustrating but at least it was easier to me install and I was able to read my PDFs.

Thanks

eschwartz · 07-30-2015, 01:25 AM

Duokan is not easier to install than the MobileRead jailbreak and packages -- they use our jailbreak (without accreditation), but their own certificates.
Installing third-party software on older Kindle firmware was easier, though -- whether MR or Duokan.

I don't expect Duokan to work, they haven't opened their sources and currently the only way to jailbreak is over the serial port -- which they don't support.
If/When a closed-Kindle jailbreak is discovered, Duokan will incorporate that method.

Feitosa · 07-30-2015, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by eschwartz

Duokan is not easier to install than the MobileRead jailbreak and packages -- they use our jailbreak (without accreditation), but their own certificates.
Installing third-party software on older Kindle firmware was easier, though -- whether MR or Duokan.

I don't expect Duokan to work, they haven't opened their sources and currently the only way to jailbreak is over the serial port -- which they don't support.
If/When a closed-Kindle jailbreak is discovered, Duokan will incorporate that method.

Sorry, but what is MR?

Eschwartz, in my opinion installing jailbreak in my old NT was harder than install duokan... It was necessary to read a lot instead of just put Duokan's files into the Kindle and reboot... But I'm not complaining, in fact, I really appreciated the experience, learning how to jailbreak and, in the end, the results were much better than Duokan.

I had no idea that they used your jailbreak, I thought it were a parallel and independent operational system (like my PC with ubuntu and windows).

Thank you!

HarryT · 07-30-2015, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Feitosa

Sorry, but what is MR?

This site: MobileRead.

Feitosa · 07-30-2015, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

This site: MobileRead.

Thanks Harry! It seems pretty obvious now that you already told me! lol

HarryT · 07-30-2015, 04:25 AM

Not at all. We all use these abbreviations, but they aren't necessarily obvious to new members

.

eschwartz · 07-30-2015, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feitosa

Eschwartz, in my opinion installing jailbreak in my old NT was harder than install duokan... It was necessary to read a lot instead of just put Duokan's files into the Kindle and reboot... But I'm not complaining, in fact, I really appreciated the experience, learning how to jailbreak and, in the end, the results were much better than Duokan.

I had no idea that they used your jailbreak, I thought it were a parallel and independent operational system (like my PC with ubuntu and windows).

Thank you!

Hmm, possibly it is easier. I am the type to think more about the technical difficulties.

The hacks here are modular, you only install the things you want.

Duokan is an alternative OS -- but technically, it hooks into the early boot processes and loads its own window manager and apps. It shares the same kernel.
Either way, to install Duokan you need root -- which is the difficult part.
Imagine if Ubuntu could only be installed if the bootloader was signed by a certificate matching a public key in the BIOS/UEFI. Hmm, Secure Boot, anyone?

Hits rather close to home, doesn't it...

HarryT · 07-30-2015, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by eschwartz

Duokan is an alternative OS

What does it change the o/s to? I was under the impression that it was still Linux - just a different reading application.

eschwartz · 07-30-2015, 10:34 AM

It changes it to Duokan linux. As far as an end-user is concerned -- a I said, on a technical level it is just a low-level window manager sharing the KindleOS bootloader, kernel, initsystem, etc.

P.S. Two independent Ubuntu partitions on the same computer are alternative OS's.
Different linux distros are commonly referred to as distinct OS's.

07-29-2015, 09:26 PM	#1
Feitosa Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2015 Device: Kindle with Duokan	Duokan on PW3? Anyone tried Duokan on Kindle paperwhite 3 (G090)? Just took one and to be honest I'm scared to try the jailbreak thing, I mean the PW2's steps with opening the device and soldering thing... I've already broke my old NT with this opening thing... I used to have some problems with Duokan and it's frustrating but at least it was easier to me install and I was able to read my PDFs. Thanks

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07-30-2015, 01:25 AM	#2
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Duokan is not easier to install than the MobileRead jailbreak and packages -- they use our jailbreak (without accreditation), but their own certificates. Installing third-party software on older Kindle firmware was easier, though -- whether MR or Duokan. I don't expect Duokan to work, they haven't opened their sources and currently the only way to jailbreak is over the serial port -- which they don't support. If/When a closed-Kindle jailbreak is discovered, Duokan will incorporate that method.

07-30-2015, 04:25 AM	#6
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Not at all. We all use these abbreviations, but they aren't necessarily obvious to new members .

07-30-2015, 10:34 AM	#9
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	It changes it to Duokan linux. As far as an end-user is concerned -- a I said, on a technical level it is just a low-level window manager sharing the KindleOS bootloader, kernel, initsystem, etc. P.S. Two independent Ubuntu partitions on the same computer are alternative OS's. Different linux distros are commonly referred to as distinct OS's.

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