Cannot get Analog and Asimov's anymore...

Alfy · 03-21-2014, 03:33 AM

Hi everyone,

Well, things are getting dire for the epub ereader owners. A few years back, Fantasy and Science Fiction decided to go Amazon exclusive, and I haven't been able to get a subscription since. Now, with the closing of the Sony store US, I'm starting to have similar problems with Analog and Asimov's.

Now, supposedly, Analog can be found on Kobo, although I haven't been able to find it either through the website or through the Mac Kobo app. I hope I will be able to get it through the reader software once the update goes through on my PRS T1, but I'm not holding my breath. As for Asimov's, it's nowhere to be found on Kobo.

So basically, if I want to read those mags on an bonafide ereader and not an iPad, the choices left are exactly one: Amazon's Kindle.

I'm having a real problem with this state of affairs. I am not an anti-Amazon activist, at least not yet, but this is grating. I don't care if Amazon is good or bad for publishing as a whole, but I certainly start feeling that it is not good FOR ME.

If anyone has found a way to purchase those mags in a way where I can still get them on Calibre, I will be thankful for the info.

Cheers,

Alfy.

eschwartz · 03-21-2014, 03:43 AM

Why can't you get them on calibre? Amazon DRM is "supported" by The Tools.

Graham · 03-21-2014, 03:47 AM

I'm subscribed to Asimov's via Nook's Android app, and they have Analog as well.

They're actually delivered as ePub without DRM, so can simply be loaded into Calibre.

Graham

AnemicOak · 03-21-2014, 03:53 AM

I can find it on the Kobo site, however it appears to be compatible only with their iOS and Android apps which likely means a format other than ePub....
http://store.kobobooks.com/en-US/ema...ion-and-fact-5
http://store.kobobooks.com/en-US/ema...ence-fiction-5

No idea if the version B&N sells is ePub either...
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/anal...=2940000281574
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/asim...=2940000281604

EDIT: I see Graham says the B&N version is ePub, so that might be a solution for you.

HarryT · 03-21-2014, 03:59 AM

B&N, to the best of my knowledge, sell no format other than ePub. What other format did you have in mind?

AnemicOak · 03-21-2014, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

B&N, to the best of my knowledge, sell no format other than ePub. What other format did you have in mind?

AFAIK they use some other format for some of their Magazines.

HarryT · 03-21-2014, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnemicOak

AFAIK they use some other format for some of their Magazines.

Thanks - I didn't know that.

Alfy · 03-21-2014, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

Why can't you get them on calibre? Amazon DRM is "supported" by The Tools.

Because these magazines can only be delivered on Kindles, iOS and Android apps. You cannot get the files onto the PC or Mac apps, and there is currently no way to transfer them from tablets and Alf them.

Alfy · 03-21-2014, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnemicOak

I can find it on the Kobo site, however it appears to be compatible only with their iOS and Android apps which likely means a format other than ePub....
http://store.kobobooks.com/en-US/ema...ion-and-fact-5
http://store.kobobooks.com/en-US/ema...ence-fiction-5

No idea if the version B&N sells is ePub either...
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/anal...=2940000281574
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/asim...=2940000281604

EDIT: I see Graham says the B&N version is ePub, so that might be a solution for you.

Thanks for the info! And it seems B&N lets you get the magazines on your PC and Mac app, so that might be the solution!

Still, if that goes away, I think there will be nothing left...

EDIT: nope, does not work. Unlike the Sony and Kobo stores, I cannot use my French credit card with an American address at B&N, and the product is only available in the US. I'm a sad, sad panda.

And not a little bit mad. There remains one last, easy solution to get my beloved magazines, that will take take me 30 seconds of searching the net and will not cost me a dime. What kind of a completely idiotic world is this, where one is unable to actually spend money on a product he likes and wants to support? Argh, this is just so completely, utterly dumb...

fjtorres · 03-21-2014, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

B&N, to the best of my knowledge, sell no format other than ePub. What other format did you have in mind?

Nook has several non-epub formats they use.
Magazines and some rich-content/fixed format ebooks tend to be Nook tablet-only. Kids' books, for example, required a tablet or a special app:
http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com/...PC/td-p/727825

geertm · 03-21-2014, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfy

Thanks for the info! And it seems B&N lets you get the magazines on your PC and Mac app, so that might be the solution!

Still, if that goes away, I think there will be nothing left...

EDIT: nope, does not work. Unlike the Sony and Kobo stores, I cannot use my French credit card with an American address at B&N, and the product is only available in the US. I'm a sad, sad panda.

And not a little bit mad. There remains one last, easy solution to get my beloved magazines, that will take take me 30 seconds of searching the net and will not cost me a dime. What kind of a completely idiotic world is this, where one is unable to actually spend money on a product he likes and wants to support? Argh, this is just so completely, utterly dumb...

For B&N you also need to use an US VPN. Use an US address for both the shipping and billing address of your B&N account, and your French credit card will work fine.

susan_cassidy · 03-21-2014, 12:18 PM

I don't know why Analog doesn't just sell issues from their own web site. It would seem to be easier.

piperclassique · 03-21-2014, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Because these magazines can only be delivered on Kindles, iOS and Android apps. You cannot get the files onto the PC or Mac apps, and there is currently no way to transfer them from tablets and Alf them.
___________

Download from Amazon (as if to put on the kindle) and transfer by USB works for me, with a small intermediate step via Alf. You need to own a physical kindle,

ShellShock · 03-21-2014, 02:31 PM

I have tried contacting the publishers in the past about the limited availability of Asimov's, but never got a reply. I currently get it via Nook for PC (I am in the UK). Can't remember how I originally subscribed.

By the way, the epub formatting is terrible, in my opinion: stories are displayed in two columns for a start. Plus all the novellas are grouped together, then all the novelletes, then all the shorts, then all the poems, and finally all the editorials. So reading from front to back starts as a very heavy meal that eventually finishes off in a rush towards the end. I can't understand the reasoning behind this.

Alfy · 03-21-2014, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geertm

For B&N you also need to use an US VPN. Use an US address for both the shipping and billing address of your B&N account, and your French credit card will work fine.

Thanks for that, I will try with the VPN tomorrow. The things we will do to get the books we will read...

03-21-2014, 03:33 AM	#1
Alfy Liseur de Bonne Aventure Posts: 374 Karma: 2176666 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Paris, France Device: PRS T1	Cannot get Analog and Asimov's anymore... Hi everyone, Well, things are getting dire for the epub ereader owners. A few years back, Fantasy and Science Fiction decided to go Amazon exclusive, and I haven't been able to get a subscription since. Now, with the closing of the Sony store US, I'm starting to have similar problems with Analog and Asimov's. Now, supposedly, Analog can be found on Kobo, although I haven't been able to find it either through the website or through the Mac Kobo app. I hope I will be able to get it through the reader software once the update goes through on my PRS T1, but I'm not holding my breath. As for Asimov's, it's nowhere to be found on Kobo. So basically, if I want to read those mags on an bonafide ereader and not an iPad, the choices left are exactly one: Amazon's Kindle. I'm having a real problem with this state of affairs. I am not an anti-Amazon activist, at least not yet, but this is grating. I don't care if Amazon is good or bad for publishing as a whole, but I certainly start feeling that it is not good FOR ME. If anyone has found a way to purchase those mags in a way where I can still get them on Calibre, I will be thankful for the info. Cheers, Alfy.

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03-21-2014, 03:43 AM	#2
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Why can't you get them on calibre? Amazon DRM is "supported" by The Tools.

03-21-2014, 03:47 AM	#3
Graham Wizard Posts: 2,743 Karma: 32912427 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: North Yorkshire, UK Device: Kobo H20, Pixel 2, Samsung Chromebook Plus	I'm subscribed to Asimov's via Nook's Android app, and they have Analog as well. They're actually delivered as ePub without DRM, so can simply be loaded into Calibre. Graham

03-21-2014, 03:53 AM	#4
AnemicOak Bookaholic Posts: 14,391 Karma: 54969924 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minnesota Device: iPad Mini 4, AuraHD, iPhone XR +	I can find it on the Kobo site, however it appears to be compatible only with their iOS and Android apps which likely means a format other than ePub.... http://store.kobobooks.com/en-US/ema...ion-and-fact-5 http://store.kobobooks.com/en-US/ema...ence-fiction-5 No idea if the version B&N sells is ePub either... http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/anal...=2940000281574 http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/asim...=2940000281604 EDIT: I see Graham says the B&N version is ePub, so that might be a solution for you.

03-21-2014, 03:59 AM	#5
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	B&N, to the best of my knowledge, sell no format other than ePub. What other format did you have in mind?

03-21-2014, 12:18 PM	#12
susan_cassidy Wizard Posts: 2,251 Karma: 3720310 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Device: Kindle, iPad (not used much for reading)	I don't know why Analog doesn't just sell issues from their own web site. It would seem to be easier.

03-21-2014, 02:31 PM	#14
ShellShock Wizard Posts: 1,176 Karma: 2431850 Join Date: Sep 2008 Device: IPad Mini 2 Retina	I have tried contacting the publishers in the past about the limited availability of Asimov's, but never got a reply. I currently get it via Nook for PC (I am in the UK). Can't remember how I originally subscribed. By the way, the epub formatting is terrible, in my opinion: stories are displayed in two columns for a start. Plus all the novellas are grouped together, then all the novelletes, then all the shorts, then all the poems, and finally all the editorials. So reading from front to back starts as a very heavy meal that eventually finishes off in a rush towards the end. I can't understand the reasoning behind this.

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