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I did not say otherwise, and agree with you, unless you include e-ink.
Because it is something I could do and find mildly interesting to play with. And because there is the potential that under some conditions, paper under glass may be indistinguishable from tablet by a reader, and that might be fun to point out to some people. They'd probably just dance right on around, though, blinders still firmly on. |
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2. In regards to funding: a) The research was only partially funded by the marketing branch of the German book industry, and I'm not sure why you would assume that the other groups funding the research would agree to be linked to corrupt results. b) The publishing industry would prefer people to stay with paper books because they have better control of distribution channels for paper books. 3.They didn't set out to contradict the large-scale survey of students and faculty at University College London, they set out to see how the the subjective impressions correlate with objective measurements. 4. You are complaining about the reading comprehension error rate graph. What you have ignored in your complaint is the error bar on the data. The differences between the results for the three mediums are within the standard mean deviation for the data, which is why they are interpreted as being the same. This is also why the graph scale is larger than the data sets. 5. It's not EGG, it's EEG (ElectroEncephaloGram). 6. "And why theta, but neither alpha nor beta waves?" The alpha waves were used as reference for each participant. 7. I don't know how you define "prestigious science journal", but it has the respect of Nature: Quote:
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11-12-2013, 03:29 PM | #66 |
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I have multiple devices, and find that different ones serve me better depending on what I'm reading and why I'm reading it. I'd never argue that any one choice is universally better than the others, because it isn't for me, so why would it be for anyone else. Paper and screens are going to coexist for a long time, and most of us are likely to use both, albeit to different degrees. Personally, I'll be happy if I never read a mass-market paperback again; those things are a pain. Trades and hardcovers are fine, but mass-market is a chore to read. In the meantime, I'll switch between eink, LCD, and paper as the situation requires. |
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Did you know that the tobacco industry had enrolled Nobel Prize winners to convince people that cigarettes would not kill them ? That is how deeply capitalism dares to corrupt science. Still, decades later, the Editor in Chief of the Journal of the American Medical Association had to publish this, because things had changed, much for the worse : http://www.medicossinmarca.cl/wp-con...al-science.pdf Here is a quote directly related to our differing approach to the article you naively defend : "For-profit companies also can exert inappropriate influence in research via control of study data and statistical analysis, ghostwriting, managing all or most aspects of manuscript preparation, and dictating to investigators the journals to which they should submit their manuscripts. For example, I have been told that in response to JAMA's policy requiring an independent statistical analysis by an academician for industry-sponsored studies in which the only statistician who analyzed the data is employed by the study sponsor, some companies are insisting that the researchers not submit those studies to JAMA. That tactic risks not only the perception that the company may have something to hide, but the reputation of any researcher willing to accede to such a company demand. Since the announcement of our policy requiring an independent statistical analysis, only one company has refused to obtain this second analysis of the submitted manuscript, and that decision came only after full review and evaluation by JAMA. When we indicated that JAMA would not publish the paper without the required independent statistical analysis, the authors and sponsor withdrew the paper from JAMA; that paper was published elsewhere shortly thereafter and has received much media coverage. I can only hope that the decision by the sponsor was based on something other than not wanting an outside analysis of data that might have uncovered flaws in the original analysis." Last edited by Lbooker; 11-13-2013 at 06:42 AM. |
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The title of the article in the OP was changed from 'Why the Brain Prefers Paper' to 'The Reading Brain in the Digital Age: Why Paper Still Beats Screens'.
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11-17-2013, 08:37 PM | #74 |
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I agree the comment regarding paging backward in a paper book being easier. I'm a fast reader, so sometimes I find that I want to return to a previous page. For some reason, with a paper book, I can easily find the section I want. With the Nook, it's much harder. I'm trying to get in the habit of bookmarking, especially maps or character lists. But, it isn't convenient for me.
That, however, is a minor irritant. On every other measurement of satisfaction, I strongly prefer e-readers. Interestingly enough, I don't actually care whether the device is e-ink or backlit. In fact, I enjoy the navigation on my Nexus 7 tablet much more than I enjoy the Nook navigation. Last edited by janjanjan; 11-17-2013 at 08:40 PM. |
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