Content Is pdf reading on the dx still crap?

harryE123 · 07-03-2010, 10:34 AM

I 've not followed the kindle upgrades in a while, but I am in the market for a large screen reader an seeing as I can't repair my irex ds, and the competition is meager (so long plastic logic...our current last hope), I am loooking very reluctantly at the kindle. And I am reluctant because do be frank I don't like the way amazon contact their bussiness.

so I am wandering have any real usability changes been implemented on the dx, that would render pdf reading a pleasurable experience and not the parody that it was when I last checked?

avlad · 07-03-2010, 11:37 AM

I'm waiting for the new Kindle DX to get some reviews about how is the pdf support.

HarryT · 07-03-2010, 11:56 AM

There don't appear to be any firmware changes.

Sheikspeare · 07-03-2010, 12:16 PM

If Amazon were to add a TOC feature, optional reflow, and better zooming, I think it would be by far the best PDF reader. As things stand it's still pretty good.

lilman · 07-03-2010, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheikspeare

If Amazon were to add a TOC feature, optional reflow, and better zooming, I think it would be by far the best PDF reader. As things stand it's still pretty good.

Add to that list true full screen capability (instead of reserving some of the top and bottom for menu items). And if they add TOC functionality I'm sure they will also include internal link support in general.

harryE123 · 07-03-2010, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

There don't appear to be any firmware changes.

What the heck have they been doing for a year? A dime and dozen companies have better pdf readers in their devices, the ipad has hundreds of them by developers all over the world...

EricLandes · 07-03-2010, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

There don't appear to be any firmware changes.

The 2.5.3 firmware change has added PDF pan and zoom. Five zoom choices are available - fit-to-screen, 150%, 200%, 300%, and actual size.

The pan feature lets you choose what portion of the page is shown at any given time.

avlad · 07-03-2010, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EricLandes

The 2.5.3 firmware change has added PDF pan and zoom. Five zoom choices are available - fit-to-screen, 150%, 200%, 300%, and actual size.

The pan feature lets you choose what portion of the page is shown at any given time.

Many thanks for info.

harryE123 · 07-04-2010, 07:05 AM

yeah but is it any good, that is, is it well implemented?

HarryT · 07-04-2010, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EricLandes

The 2.5.3 firmware change has added PDF pan and zoom. Five zoom choices are available - fit-to-screen, 150%, 200%, 300%, and actual size.

The pan feature lets you choose what portion of the page is shown at any given time.

Sorry, you misunderstand me. What I mean is that there are no changes specific to the Graphite DX. I am of course aware that there have been PDF improvements in the new firmware for the entire Kindle range. It's still, however, rather poor compared to many other devices.

Sheikspeare · 07-04-2010, 08:39 AM

Harry, for the sake of clarity, can you specify which PDF features of many other (comparable) devices is lacking in the Kindle DX?

For me, by far the best PDF feature of the KDX compared to "many other devices" is the fact that it has a 9.7 inch screen. That's not to say it's by any means perfect.

That aside, my only request would be if it could have a TOC feature for PDFs and/or PDF bookmarks.

HarryT · 07-04-2010, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheikspeare

Harry, for the sake of clarity, can you specify which PDF features of many other (comparable) devices is lacking in the Kindle DX?

The killer, for me personally, is lack of hyperlink/toc support. It makes using any type of "reference" material, where items are hyperlinked, or referenced in a table of contents, essentially impossible.

Sheikspeare · 07-04-2010, 08:45 AM

Harry, I agree. But I wouldn't go so far as to say that the reading experience on the DX is poor. I do a lot of reading on mine -- mostly PDFs. TOC/hyperlink support would give it that extra important level of attraction.

HarryT · 07-04-2010, 08:52 AM

The actual reading experience is excellent, I agree. It's the lack of navigation support that's the issue. If all you're doing is reading short journal articles, say, then it's great.

harryE123 · 07-04-2010, 12:10 PM

how hard is it for amazon to implement hyperlink functionality....makes no sense...

07-03-2010, 10:34 AM	#1
harryE123 Banned Posts: 272 Karma: 70 Join Date: Dec 2008 Device: irex reader	Is pdf reading on the dx still crap? I 've not followed the kindle upgrades in a while, but I am in the market for a large screen reader an seeing as I can't repair my irex ds, and the competition is meager (so long plastic logic...our current last hope), I am loooking very reluctantly at the kindle. And I am reluctant because do be frank I don't like the way amazon contact their bussiness. so I am wandering have any real usability changes been implemented on the dx, that would render pdf reading a pleasurable experience and not the parody that it was when I last checked?

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07-03-2010, 11:37 AM	#2
avlad Member Posts: 24 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Bucharest, Romania Device: PRS-505, DX, DXG	I'm waiting for the new Kindle DX to get some reviews about how is the pdf support.

07-03-2010, 11:56 AM	#3
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	There don't appear to be any firmware changes.

07-03-2010, 12:16 PM	#4
Sheikspeare Groupie Posts: 181 Karma: 290 Join Date: Jul 2009 Device: PR-505 / Kindle DX	If Amazon were to add a TOC feature, optional reflow, and better zooming, I think it would be by far the best PDF reader. As things stand it's still pretty good.

07-04-2010, 07:05 AM	#9
harryE123 Banned Posts: 272 Karma: 70 Join Date: Dec 2008 Device: irex reader	yeah but is it any good, that is, is it well implemented?

07-04-2010, 08:39 AM	#11
Sheikspeare Groupie Posts: 181 Karma: 290 Join Date: Jul 2009 Device: PR-505 / Kindle DX	Harry, for the sake of clarity, can you specify which PDF features of many other (comparable) devices is lacking in the Kindle DX? For me, by far the best PDF feature of the KDX compared to "many other devices" is the fact that it has a 9.7 inch screen. That's not to say it's by any means perfect. That aside, my only request would be if it could have a TOC feature for PDFs and/or PDF bookmarks.

07-04-2010, 08:45 AM	#13
Sheikspeare Groupie Posts: 181 Karma: 290 Join Date: Jul 2009 Device: PR-505 / Kindle DX	Harry, I agree. But I wouldn't go so far as to say that the reading experience on the DX is poor. I do a lot of reading on mine -- mostly PDFs. TOC/hyperlink support would give it that extra important level of attraction.

07-04-2010, 08:52 AM	#14
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	The actual reading experience is excellent, I agree. It's the lack of navigation support that's the issue. If all you're doing is reading short journal articles, say, then it's great.

07-04-2010, 12:10 PM	#15
harryE123 Banned Posts: 272 Karma: 70 Join Date: Dec 2008 Device: irex reader	how hard is it for amazon to implement hyperlink functionality....makes no sense...