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Old 01-02-2021, 12:57 PM   #14506
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Didn't an episode of The Twilight Zone indicate that if you travel into the past what has happened will happen no matter what you do? In fact, wouldn't your actions attempting to prevent something from happening lead to it happening because of your actions?
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Old 01-02-2021, 01:05 PM   #14507
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What if you had perfect knowledge of the future and that killing someone now could prevent many deaths in the future?
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Old 01-02-2021, 01:42 PM   #14508
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Would the perfect knowledge of the future include the ramifications of taking that action? What if the results are worse than the future you are trying to prevent?
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Old 01-02-2021, 03:49 PM   #14509
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This question needs a little set-up.

Five people are stuck on a train track. A train is coming. There is no time to free them before the train arrives, but you can pull a lever to divert the train to another track. The other track has just one person stuck on it. A train will run along on that track too, but you do have time to free them before it arrives. But there isn't time to free them if you divert this train onto the track too. (The two trains will not crash no matter what you do.)

All the people are ordinary, innocent people, stuck on the train tracks (never mind how) through no fault of their own.

Should you pull the lever?

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Old 01-03-2021, 04:36 AM   #14510
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Has someone seen so many full stops in this thread before?
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Old 01-03-2021, 12:40 PM   #14511
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Perhaps you could think of it a one, long, question?
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Old 01-03-2021, 02:39 PM   #14512
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Wouldn't putting it in parenthesis before the actual question make it part of the question?
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Old 01-03-2021, 02:54 PM   #14513
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Wouldn't that make it not part of the question?

But the post references the question from the very first word (This), so doesn't that make the whole post one long question?
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Old 01-03-2021, 03:07 PM   #14514
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Why are we arguing about what makes something part of a question?
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Old 01-03-2021, 04:35 PM   #14515
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Is this thread not called Silliness Question Everything?
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Old 01-03-2021, 05:48 PM   #14516
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Does that really matter?
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Old 01-04-2021, 05:06 AM   #14517
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Old 01-04-2021, 12:02 PM   #14518
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Am I supposed to have an answer to that question?
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Old 01-04-2021, 02:07 PM   #14519
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Wouldn't you have to answer that question with a question?
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Old 01-04-2021, 02:09 PM   #14520
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