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Old 04-22-2010, 01:23 PM   #121
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But, were low cut shirts on women involved?
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Old 04-22-2010, 04:22 PM   #122
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But, were low cut shirts on women involved?
Yes, I was wondering about that too. Those promiscuous women have been curiously absent for several pages of this thread...
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Old 04-22-2010, 04:23 PM   #123
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Yes, I was wondering about that too. Those promiscuous women has been curiously absent for several pages of this thread...
Probably all off doing....errrr.....other things
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Old 04-22-2010, 04:39 PM   #124
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But where?
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Old 04-22-2010, 04:40 PM   #125
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Old 04-22-2010, 04:54 PM   #126
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If I knew that do you think I'd be here posting replies?
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Old 04-22-2010, 04:55 PM   #127
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If I knew that do you think I'd be here posting replies?
Wait a minute - who's not posting replies? Follow them!
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Old 04-22-2010, 04:57 PM   #128
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If I knew that do you think I'd be here posting replies?
Aw, comon, you c'n share with friends, eh?
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Old 04-22-2010, 05:13 PM   #129
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Old 04-22-2010, 05:45 PM   #130
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With all due respect, Islam has had their Reformation, and it led to schisms and factional wars just as the Christian Reformation did.

What Islam needs is its Age of Enlightenment—Voltaire and Paine; not Luther and Calvin.
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really? what would you say the event was?
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From http://etymonline.com/columns/reformation.htm

There already was an Islamic Reformation. It happened while we were sleeping. The result is Wahhabi dominance, and Islamic Brotherhood, and Bin Laden. This is the Islamic Reformation. We're fighting it now.

A couple of excerpts from http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...f/wahhabi.htm:

For more than two centuries, Wahhabism has been Saudi Arabia's dominant faith. It is an austere form of Islam that insists on a literal interpretation of the Koran. Strict Wahhabis believe that all those who don't practice their form of Islam are heathens and enemies. Critics say that Wahhabism's rigidity has led it to misinterpret and distort Islam, pointing to extremists such as Osama bin Laden and the Taliban. Wahhabism's explosive growth began in the 1970s when Saudi charities started funding Wahhabi schools (madrassas) and mosques from Islamabad to Culver City, California.

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[Wahabism] is a reform movement that began 200 years ago to rid Islamic societies of cultural practices and interpretation that had been acquired over the centuries. The followers of Abdul Wahab (1703-1792) began as a movement to cleanse the Arab bedouin from the influence of Sufism. Wahhabis are the followers of Ibn 'Abd ul-Wahhab, who instituted a great reform in the religion of Islam in Arabia in the 18th century. Mahommed ibn 'Abd ul-Wahhab was born in 1691 (or 1703) at al-Hauta of the Nejd in central Arabia, and was of the tribe of the Bani Tamim. He studied literature and jurisprudence of the Hanifite school. After making the pilgrimage with his father, he spent some further time in the study of law at Medina, and resided for a while at Isfahan, whence he returned to the Nejd to undertake the work of a teacher.


And from http://atheism.about.com/od/islamicsects/a/wahhabi.htm

Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab (d. 1792) was the first modern Islamic fundamentalist and extremists. Wahhab made the central point of his reform movement the principle that absolutely every idea added to Islam after the third century of the Mulsim [sic]era (about 950 CE) was false and should be eliminated. Muslims, in order to be true Muslims, must adhere solely and strictly to the original beliefs set forth by Muhammad.
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I guess I meant more of a kinder gentler type of reformation. a whole nailing the thesis on the door sort of scenario
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Old 04-22-2010, 05:54 PM   #133
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There have been a few blaming it on Iceland having gay marriage and/or electing a lesbian prime minister.
In this country is was all the rage in some circles to blame AIDS on homosexuals. The fly in that ointment was when people began to realize that lesbians actually had a lower infection rate; leading many to wonder if God was like so many males in our culture—homophobic when it comes to male homosexuals, but turned on by the idea of two women getting it on.
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I guess I meant more of a kinder gentler type of reformation. a whole nailing the thesis on the door sort of scenario
Gentler? What do you think happened after the nailing up of those theses? That everyone went around saying; 'Yeah, that looks allright! Lets all get along peacefully, also with the papists
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In this country is was all the rage in some circles to blame AIDS on homosexuals. The fly in that ointment was when people began to realize that lesbians actually had a lower infection rate; leading many to wonder if God was like so many males in our culture—homophobic when it comes to male homosexuals, but turned on by the idea of two women getting it on.
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