Hacks kindlepid/kindlefix 0.2 - Page 9

JSWolf · 03-12-2009, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

That is so true. You could have a site that distributes ebooks that are in the public domain using DRM... and removing the DRM would violate the DMCA. It's just a stupid law.

Also, there is the exception for disabled people. But, what if the disabled person doesn't have the computer skills to remove the DRM? Can another person remove the DRM since they would not fall under the exception?

The thing that I would like to see one of these interviewers ask Bezos is, why is it bad for Apple to lock iTunes content to an iPod which prompted you to open the DRM free MP3 store, but it is ok for you to lock Kindle users into only using the Kindle store?

BOb

The DMCA exception says...

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The disabled access to ebooks exception: Literary works distributed in ebook format when all existing ebook editions of the work (including digital text editions made available by authorized entities) contain access controls that prevent the enabling either of the book's read-aloud function or of screen readers that render the text into a specialized format.

Now, What Amazon has done is enabled TTS on the K2. So these eBooks that were once legal to strip the DRM may not be legal any longer. Way to go Jeff.

On one hand Jeff says, DRM is options and on the other, he insists on DRM. Nobody yet knows his true stand on eBook DRM.

Thomas Ryan · 03-12-2009, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

You see, Amazon does have total control of your Kindle. [...]

So if you can strip the DRM, do it. Just use the DRM copies to view on your Kindle so Amazon cannot see the DRM free copies.

Yet another logic bomb. Look at the two sentences above and think about it for two more minutes.
If you need another clue, think about WhisperSynch.

http://www.teleread.org/2009/02/16/a...ichael-harris/

I'm not saying that Amazon does or doesn't know what you are reading, nor whether they should or shouldn't, or under what circumstances, etc. Based on your own statements, it's simply a logical conclusion that technically,at least, if the WAN is working, Amazon can indeed know every page turn you make, when you make it, and if GPS is available, where you were when you made it. DRM or not.

Thomas Ryan · 03-12-2009, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TallMomof2

The sync only works on Amazon purchased content.

yes, limit the synch to content purchased from Amazon, for obvious business reasons (value added to Amazon purchases only), but how do you know what data is actually being sent to the servers? Has anyone actually read the EULA?

JSWolf · 03-12-2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomas Ryan

yes, limit the synch to content purchased from Amazon, for obvious business reasons (value added to Amazon purchases only), but how do you know what data is actually being sent to the servers? Has anyone actually read the EULA?

See messages #113 and #114 on page 8 of this thread for your answer.

MoboHobo · 03-12-2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

It's rotten "luck" that Amazon has decided to put a death grip on content for the Kindle.

This is so true man.

desertgrandma · 03-12-2009, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by daffy4u

Check my new sig.

Well, I was thinking about putting

"AMAZON SUCKS!"

But I like yours better........

kevindorsey · 03-12-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by desertgrandma

Well, I was thinking about putting

"AMAZON SUCKS!"

But I like yours better........

Hehehe

koland · 03-13-2009, 11:46 AM

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(B) The prohibition contained in subparagraph (A) shall not apply to persons who are users of a copyrighted work which is in a particular class of works, if such persons are, or are likely to be in the succeeding 3-year period, adversely affected by virtue of such prohibition in their ability to make noninfringing uses of that particular class of works under this title

Seems like that would pretty much cover everyone. Phones are designed to be replaced every two years (thus the 2 year "get one free" policy about everywhere). Can anyone really expect their Kindle to work a lot longer than that?

In less than a year at FW, I've had book in my bookshelf disappear (and at BoB as well, for no apparent reason), restricting my ability to read on a new notebook computer (as I cannot redownload with the new PID). Computers are also designed to be replaced every 2 to 3 years (despite IRS depreciation rules and companies/home users that hang onto them for years). Notebooks have a much shorter expected lifespan than desktops.

With the pace of technology, even the mobi format will probably be replaced as a standard or the old software will become incompatible with the latest version of Windows.

All reasonable outcomes in the next 3 years that would mean (a) doesn't apply.

BrianJ48 · 03-13-2009, 12:48 PM

igorsk 's link was removed?

desertgrandma · 03-13-2009, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianJ48

igorsk 's link was removed?

yes it was.

Do you not see the banner at the top of your page?

Reminder To everyone: Please refrain from posting direct download links to any tools or scripts that may be used to circumvent copyright protections. If in doubt, you can message a moderator for assistance. Thank you.

Thank Amazon.

BrianJ48 · 03-13-2009, 12:58 PM

desertgrandma-

I'm new - but thought that the thread consensus was that, since expiration was still effective, DRM wasn't violated. Does this mean I'm out of luck, or is there alternative way to get script? Thanks.

BrianJ48 · 03-13-2009, 01:03 PM

I'm new - but thought that the thread consensus was that, since expiration was still effective, DRM wasn't violated. Does this mean I'm out of luck, or is there alternative way to get script? Thanks.

pilotbob · 03-13-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianJ48

I'm new - but thought that the thread consensus was that, since expiration was still effective, DRM wasn't violated. Does this mean I'm out of luck, or is there alternative way to get script? Thanks.

Regardless of what we believe Amazon has requested that MR remove all links and directions on using kindlepid... we have complied in good faith but the issue is still pending.

For now google is your friend.

BOb

desertgrandma · 03-13-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

Regardless of what we believe Amazon has requested that MR remove all links and directions on using kindlepid... we have compiled in good faith but the issue is still pending.

For now google is your friend.

BOb

Thank you Bob. I just wasn't sure how to answer.

Brian, good luck.

Sydney's Mom · 03-13-2009, 03:32 PM

This is so sad. The wiki is gone as well (I know that was in the request). That was how I learned to run programs from the command prompt, etc. This is so sad. I guess I got my kindle at just the right time. Only better time would have been never!

03-13-2009, 12:48 PM	#129
BrianJ48 Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Kindle 2	Where did link for kindlepid/kindlefix 0.2 go? igorsk 's link was removed?

03-13-2009, 01:03 PM	#132
BrianJ48 Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Kindle 2	desertgrandma- question I'm new - but thought that the thread consensus was that, since expiration was still effective, DRM wasn't violated. Does this mean I'm out of luck, or is there alternative way to get script? Thanks.

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BrianJ48 Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Kindle 2	desertgrandma- I'm new - but thought that the thread consensus was that, since expiration was still effective, DRM wasn't violated. Does this mean I'm out of luck, or is there alternative way to get script? Thanks.

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Sydney's Mom Wizard Posts: 2,896 Karma: 6995721 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Idaho, on the side of a mountain Device: Kindle Oasis, Fire 3d Gen and 5th Gen and Samsung Tab S	This is so sad. The wiki is gone as well (I know that was in the request). That was how I learned to run programs from the command prompt, etc. This is so sad. I guess I got my kindle at just the right time. Only better time would have been never!

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