Would you buy ebooks subsidized with ads? - Page 9

Jellby · 02-27-2009, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Jordan

They will not be wild, flashy animated ads

Hmm... I think I would love to see that on my Cybook, and in colour, please

GeoffC · 02-27-2009, 10:29 AM

never

yvanleterrible · 02-27-2009, 02:22 PM

And how about the one type of targeted advertizing that was discussed in an other similar thread? In this, the text is part of advertizing, the same way product placement is featured in some movies. Ex:

- The detective left the building after his investigation was done. As he walked to his car, his eyes lingered slowly on the curvy shapes of a Chevrolet Corvette. He thought, "Why don't we get service cars like that?" -

Of course things like that will not work with classics.

Daithi · 02-27-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by astra

I wonder how many voted for No option meaning they don't want adds while in fact they had to vote for Yes, they will mind adds?

I was wondering the same thing. I started to vote No, but after reading the question voted Yes (the question on the main board doen't match the poll's question).

I don't mind ads at the back of the book for novels by the same authors, in the same series, or even advertising up an coming new author by the same publisher. However, I don't think I want to see any ads of the type that would reduce the cost of the book, which is a seperate kind of ad.

"We hope you enjoyed Dan Brown's latest thriller, now would you like fries with that?"

Justy · 02-27-2009, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Jordan

The ads will be (probably) in front, (certainly) in back, and maybe somewhere in the center of the book between chapters, or an ad per chapter break. They will not be wild, flashy animated ads, because that absolutely does not go with the medium (for the same reason television ads don't show you a still photo and text to read).

I voted "No" because I wouldn't mind an ad at the front or back of the book, even a short, less than a page, ad between chapters, not all but some, wouldn't be too bad. Of course if I was going to put up with ads between each chapter I would want a substantial reduction in price. I wouldn't expect quite as big a reduction for ads at the front or back. I really, really wouldn't like seeing flashy animated ads, and certainly wouldn't want to see an ad in blinding colour when the rest of the eBook is in black and white.

Ceili · 02-27-2009, 06:56 PM

[QUOTE=Daithi;372122]I was wondering the same thing. I started to vote No, but after reading the question voted Yes (the question on the main board doen't match the poll's question)./QUOTE]

I only read the poll and voted No, I would Not buy ebooks subsidized with ads.

Consistancy is nice... rare, but nice

Sorry I didn't see the other thing... I was reading quickly and trying to keep away from something... I saw the poll and clicked!

Ceili · 02-27-2009, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by epiphany

I suspect if the ads consisted of a few unobtrusive pages throughout the book and resulted in a significant discount relative to the ad-free version (say, more than 50% off), then many people claiming they wouldn't buy them no matter what the price would soon change their mind. Alas, I don't think the ads would yield much revenue so we won't ever see if I'm right.

Honestly, if there is a book you are mildly interested in but not willing to buy and there is a free version with a few ads, are you going to flat out refuse to read the free version?

grr, my response was lost to the ether

If the book was free, I have no problem reading it. My expectations for free stuff is way lower than for the things I will pay for. That said, if there are ads in it and a price tag attached, I will not be buying it. I have no issue paying for what I want, nor do I think that I'm the only one that likes to get paid for my work... ergo, I'll buy that author's book. But... as soon as the adverts go in, I go bye bye... or rather, buy buy elsewhere

wayspooled · 02-27-2009, 09:43 PM

I say no, I don't mind them.. But that's as long as they are not intrusive, ie: blink, whiz, whirr and you don't have to click through them to get where you want to go.

desertgrandma · 02-27-2009, 10:20 PM

Has no one here considered that if they were 'unobtrusive' and 'out of the way' and you 'didn't have to go thru them to get to where you wanted to go'..........

Why would the advertisers bother with ads that would be ignored??? Thats just stupidity!

They will want their ads where you HAVE to look at them.

F.F. · 02-27-2009, 11:23 PM

book with ads never! but magazines and newspapers its ok...

ads just not fit for books, it may distract the reader.

Elfwreck · 02-28-2009, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DaleDe

It is certainly not in an advertisers best interests to antagonize the customer. They like to think of themselves as value added.

Dale

So what's with the blinky ads on so many websites? Why did so many of them switch from animated gifs (easily stopped by hitting the Escape key) to flash movies (blocked with special software only)?

While I'd love to think that ads for ebooks will be like ads in older paperbacks, not ads in magazines... I certainly don't have any faith in the marketing/advertising industry to distinguish between suggestions ("here's a nifty thing you might like to buy") and harassment ("if you want to keep reading, you'll need to flip through four pages of our special content").

Elfwreck · 02-28-2009, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Jordan

Television has the capability of interrupting programs, mid-sentence, with full-screen ads, or having characters bouncing all over the screen in the middle of a major scene... but wisely, they refrain from being that obtrusive, and puts ads at commercial breaks, and along the bottom of the screen.

With a higher volume than the tv show. And over half the screen, while they squish the credits (sometimes including the final teaser) on the other half. And simultaneously with the preview for next week's episode. And with little people for the show that's on next, running around on the bottom of the episode.

We're already getting flashy, invasive ads in TV programs. I suspect the only reason we won't get them in ebooks is technical limitations, not because they're "not appropriate" in the minds of the advertisers.

yvanleterrible · 02-28-2009, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by desertgrandma

Has no one here considered that if they were 'unobtrusive' and 'out of the way' and you 'didn't have to go thru them to get to where you wanted to go'..........

Why would the advertisers bother with ads that would be ignored??? Thats just stupidity!

They will want their ads where you HAVE to look at them.

Excellent point. There is no way someone would pay for advertising without having the most for their investment.

Better to keep them at bay.

RobbieClarken · 02-28-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by yvanleterrible

Excellent point. There is no way someone would pay for advertising without having the most for their investment.

Better to keep them at bay.

I'd argue that an important element of Google's success is unobtrusive ads, yet they have no shortage of customers.

desertgrandma · 02-28-2009, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by epiphany

I'd argue that an important element of Google's success is unobtrusive ads, yet they have no shortage of customers.

Google isn't a book I bought and paid for.

Its a public service, and I expect ads there.

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02-27-2009, 10:29 AM	#122
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,599 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	never

02-27-2009, 02:22 PM	#123
yvanleterrible Reborn Paper User Posts: 8,616 Karma: 15446734 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Que Nada Device: iPhone8, iPad Air	And how about the one type of targeted advertizing that was discussed in an other similar thread? In this, the text is part of advertizing, the same way product placement is featured in some movies. Ex: - The detective left the building after his investigation was done. As he walked to his car, his eyes lingered slowly on the curvy shapes of a Chevrolet Corvette. He thought, "Why don't we get service cars like that?" - Of course things like that will not work with classics.

02-27-2009, 06:56 PM	#126
Ceili well, that didn't work Posts: 103 Karma: 1027 Join Date: May 2008 Device: Kindle	[QUOTE=Daithi;372122]I was wondering the same thing. I started to vote No, but after reading the question voted Yes (the question on the main board doen't match the poll's question)./QUOTE] I only read the poll and voted No, I would Not buy ebooks subsidized with ads. Consistancy is nice... rare, but nice Sorry I didn't see the other thing... I was reading quickly and trying to keep away from something... I saw the poll and clicked!

02-27-2009, 09:43 PM	#128
wayspooled Crab In The Dark Posts: 486 Karma: 2328180 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Device: Tablet PC until a 10" comes out that I like	I say no, I don't mind them.. But that's as long as they are not intrusive, ie: blink, whiz, whirr and you don't have to click through them to get where you want to go.

02-27-2009, 10:20 PM	#129
desertgrandma Enjoying the show.... Posts: 14,270 Karma: 10462843 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Arizona Device: A K1, Kindle Paperwhite, an Ipod, IPad2, Iphone, an Ipad Mini & macAir	Has no one here considered that if they were 'unobtrusive' and 'out of the way' and you 'didn't have to go thru them to get to where you wanted to go'.......... Why would the advertisers bother with ads that would be ignored??? Thats just stupidity! They will want their ads where you HAVE to look at them.

02-27-2009, 11:23 PM	#130
F.F. Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: none	book with ads never! but magazines and newspapers its ok... ads just not fit for books, it may distract the reader.

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