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Do you really think it's appropriate, for instance, to hyphenate a heading? Can you show me a single print book that allows it? Aaron |
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But some who make eBooks just decide to remove hyphens everywhere. It's too easy to be abused when used.
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This option has been in Word for at least two decades, and as the name suggests, the style was standard in WordPerfect even before that. So, I doubt it would unduly tax even the processors in today's Kindles. In fact, it would take less processing power than the kerning introduced with the new layout engine. The reason you don't get this on Kindle is that the Kindle developers themselves know nothing about typography. The advances announced for the new layout engine are just features of Webkit that the Kindle team has finally decided to turn on. They're just throwing switches. If book-style typography was available in Webkit, we'd get it on Kindle. But as it is, Amazon continues to give us screenshots of poor typography and bragging about its advances. Aaron |
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@Aaron: that is all you want? Expansion and compression for justification and you are all happy? How about just embedding a font with really really narrow space character and call it done. The Kindle will leave the narrow space alone until it decides to stretch it out.
For a second I thought you meant aesthetically pleasing hyphenation, optically appearing justified text (not simply forced into a rectangle), ... |
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I would also like not to have added space between indented paragraphs. Respect for nonbreaking spaces. I can dream about nonbreaking hyphens too. I discuss some of these on my blog, and more in my books. By the way, I just posted on my blog about problems related to JPEG XR, the new graphics format for KFX. http://www.newselfpublishing.com/blog/ Aaron |
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Guys, can we please restrict this thread to the KFX format, I use it to keep in touch with whatever new data we learn about KFX, since I dont have a KFX enabled device myself -- unrelated discussion on typography makes that harder. There are plenty of other forums this discussion can be moved to.
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I'm the first to admit I know next to nothing about this, but given the findings by james194zt with regard to AES/CBC/PKCS5 encryption with SHA2 256Kb hashes, is cracking KFX even possible at this time? Or is it a waiting game until Amazon releases (if they release) a KFX-capable Kindle for PC/Mac app or kfxgen utility?
(I'm not being snarky or sarcastic. I honestly want to understand the process as much as my limited brain can grasp.) Also, I'm really worried mattmc is right when he says: Quote:
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@Kovid: Agreed.
I'm as guilty as any for the latest derailment, but we need to reserve this space for discussion about the technical specifications concerning the KFX format. The guts, so to speak. Discussions about things we like/don't like about it, or what happens to the formatting of books that get converted to it, and general typography disputes need to be taken elsewhere. This is a "what makes it tick" thread. As such, "how its contents get rendered" is irrelevant right now. |
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A thought did occur to me: since Kindles are basically lightweight Linux machines, could you SSH into one from your desktop and attach GDB to whatever process is reading the files? Kinda a question for the crazy hackers over in the Kindle Developers' Corner. |
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Hi, DD: Just getting caught up with this thread, which thus far, has been pretty darned amusing. Yeah, verily, a long time ago and some galaxies away--in my MBPC days, in the aughts--I may have used the "empty para" trick--but if a bookmaker tries that with me now, they're not working for me any longer. For all the right AND wrong reasons, but mostly because, it's simply unreliable and it's bloody LAZY. I'm looking forward to the enhanced capabilities. I'm dead tired of the idea that a Fiverr can do what we do (or the ubiquitous "upload your Word file and we'll automagically convert it to..."). It's annoying as s**t. Hitch |
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@odamizu: The algorithm used for encryption doesn't matter. Since other experiments have shown that the same encrypted KFX file collection works on multiple devices, that implies that whatever the algorithm, it is based on a key that is not device/account specific. So what is needed is to figure out what that key is and extract it. Once that is done, all KFX files will be decryptable trivially (that is assuming there is not another layer of separate device/account specific DRM underneath).
The problem is more a human one. The advantages that KFX brings are so minor and individual device specific that I doubt anyone is likely to spend the time to break the obfuscation. I know I for one am not motivated to do so. From what I have been able to deduce, KFX contains images and probably text that is pre-processed/changed to work for the particular device the KFX is sent to. As such it is fairly pointless as an ebook format, in that it is not suitable a source for conversion to another ebook format. About the only thing one would gain by reversing this format is the ability to generate your own KFX files to send to your particular Kindle. EDIT: And I should say that in the long term this is likely to be a dead-end format anyway. Since the capabilities it brings are perfectly possible by just improving the text rendering engines for normal epub/azw3 files. |
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Consider the Victorian-style chapter headings "in which our hero ..." If these use several lines the book designer will probably choose to hyphenate. |
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![]() I'm not so interested KFX's enhanced typography. My primary concern is maintaining the ability to tweak ebooks and convert to different formats if Amazon phases out MOBI and AZW3, leaving KFX as their only format. Hopefully that won't happen any time soon, especially given kovidgoyal's comment about KFX being an unsuitable source for conversion. Yikes. |
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