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Old 06-20-2015, 08:13 PM   #121
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What needs to be modified in a Kindle eBook in order to take advantage of the PW3's new typography? ...
I'm wondering this, too. I thought I read somewhere (maybe Nate's blog or another thread here? I can't remember) that the hyphenation may just be a matter of proper CSS, which means if you're familiar with CSS and willing to tinker, you may be able to turn hyphenation on/off yourself.

I'm particularly interested in what this means for ebooks converted to AZW3 using Calibre.
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Old 06-20-2015, 08:24 PM   #122
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What needs to be modified in a Kindle eBook in order to take advantage of the PW3's new typography? If the font haqs Kerning, that should be automatic. If the font has ligatures, that should be automatic. And lastly unless there are CSS command(s) to disable hyphenation, that should be automatic as well.
It will suck if it doesn't work on side loaded books.
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What needs to be modified in a Kindle eBook in order to take advantage of the PW3's new typography? If the font haqs Kerning, that should be automatic. If the font has ligatures, that should be automatic. And lastly unless there are CSS command(s) to disable hyphenation, that should be automatic as well.
We're not really sure what CSS has to be added to the file, but Amazon said that they would add it automatically.
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We're not really sure what CSS has to be added to the file, but Amazon said that they would add it automatically.
Ah, but will we be able to add it to ebooks we convert with Calibre? That is the question.
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Ah, but will we be able to add it to ebooks we convert with Calibre? That is the question.
Not at this time, no.

I know a couple developers who have tried to force the issue by reverse engineering the changes and then adding the new css to their ebooks before uploading or sideloading them. It didn't work.

Also, emailing an ebook to your Kindle account won't do it either.
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Anyone know if active content will still be supported?
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Active content hasn't been supported for quite a long time on the Kindle.
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It was removed on all devices running firmware 5.6.x to the best of my knowledge. Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong .
I believe Active Content was simply marked as incompatible. At least I can confirm that people who jailbroke their Kindle Voyage were able to run KUAL, an Active Content-based application and script launcher developed in our Kindle Developers Corner.
So it appears that the framework wasn't stripped out of the firmware -- not even for devices that NEVER officially supported Active Content.
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Not at this time, no.

I know a couple developers who have tried to force the issue by reverse engineering the changes and then adding the new css to their ebooks before uploading or sideloading them. It didn't work.

Also, emailing an ebook to your Kindle account won't do it either.
Why the heck did Amazon do something so stupid? This then makes the Kobo Glo HD a much better Reader because the advanced typography just works. If your font supports kerning you get kerning. If your font supports ligatures, you get ligatures. If you read in full justification, you get hyphens unless the CSS code says not to use hyphens. It just works where Amazon has some secret crap that needs to be added and might only work when the eBook is DRMed.

Do any of the eBooks listed come without DRM? If not, maybe the secret code and DRM are key?
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So how is putting a Reader in your pocket a good thing to do?
My Voyage in its case still fits comfortably in a jacket pocket so the size is perfect for me.
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I'm hoping we get a Voyage refresh that pushes it a bit further ahead of this new PW3. I do want the Voyage's flush screen. Could not care less about the haptic buttons. Just now hoping to get more value for my next E-ink dollar, given how competitive the new PW3 is.
They might decide that the best option for the Voyage would be to simply narrow the pricegap between it and the current PW, for example in the UK the prices are as follows:

PW - £120 (w/o special offers)
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Halving that gap might be sufficient a change so that those who prefer the nicer design, page turn buttons etc. would go for it still, even without the previous screen advantage.
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Why the heck did Amazon do something so stupid? This then makes the Kobo Glo HD a much better Reader because the advanced typography just works. If your font supports kerning you get kerning. If your font supports ligatures, you get ligatures. If you read in full justification, you get hyphens unless the CSS code says not to use hyphens. It just works where Amazon has some secret crap that needs to be added and might only work when the eBook is DRMed.

Do any of the eBooks listed come without DRM? If not, maybe the secret code and DRM are key?
They are going about this wrong, i agree. i wish they had made the feature widely available and released the tech specs when they announced it.
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Is the person who did the PW3/2/voyage video on this forum. I'd like to ask him to convert the book used in the video to epub then back to kf8 and see if the PW3 displays it differently. Be ashamed if all the new features only work on Amazon prepared books.
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They are going about this wrong, i agree. i wish they had made the feature widely available and released the tech specs when they announced it.
Why need special code? It should just work like it does with RMDSK on Kobo Readers.
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Is the person who did the PW3/2/voyage video on this forum. I'd like to ask him to convert the book used in the video to epub then back to kf8 and see if the PW3 displays it differently. Be ashamed if all the new features only work on Amazon prepared books.
I don't think Len hangs out here. I'll go ping him.
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I don't think Len hangs out here. I'll go ping him.
Can you also ask Len to show us the different Kindles using the same font and also to show us the font light?

I know this means redoing the video, but he left some rather important things out of the video and the different fonts aren't really meaningful for a proper comparison.
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Not at this time, no.

I know a couple developers who have tried to force the issue by reverse engineering the changes and then adding the new css to their ebooks before uploading or sideloading them. It didn't work.

Also, emailing an ebook to your Kindle account won't do it either.
Wow. Thanks for this info. I find it astonishing and mystifying that Amazon would do something like this.
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