Microsoft airs its first Surface tablet ad

[pj123]

Let's be patient.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/...rper-than-ipad

http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/artic...-fatal-mistake

http://www.zdnet.com/microsofts-surf...st-7000006002/

[ProDigit]

Man, you can say what you want,
I'm all for the hardware, if it lasted a while on a battery charge, but I'm totally not for the operating system!

Give me XP over anything else.
Many have seen that windows 7 probably uses only 25% more resources than xp, while the hardware has sped up by over 2-4x, and they found it acceptable, but windows 8 is really not a nice version to be working with...
It's a step backward, back on the same level as Windows 3.11 if you ask me!
Almost no control, no flexibility, runs slow on those slower tablet processors, is too large in size for an OS; and most of the time, the OS is not even able to do what you want to do, and if it does it, it won't do it very well, nor very fast!

[vaughnmr]

Originally Posted by ProDigit

Man, you can say what you want,
I'm all for the hardware, if it lasted a while on a battery charge, but I'm totally not for the operating system!

Give me XP over anything else.
Many have seen that windows 7 probably uses only 25% more resources than xp, while the hardware has sped up by over 2-4x, and they found it acceptable, but windows 8 is really not a nice version to be working with...
It's a step backward, back on the same level as Windows 3.11 if you ask me!
Almost no control, no flexibility, runs slow on those slower tablet processors, is too large in size for an OS; and most of the time, the OS is not even able to do what you want to do, and if it does it, it won't do it very well, nor very fast!

Wow! Yep, I remember the good old XP days... I'm an architectural designer, using very demanding 3d applications (Autodesk Revit), thank god XP is gone in our neighborhood! It can't hold a candle to 7, but I do miss those daily crashes, blue screens, etc. If it weren't for windows update, I wouldn't have to reboot at all.

[obsessed2]

Originally Posted by ProDigit

Many have seen that windows 7 probably uses only 25% more resources than xp, while the hardware has sped up by over 2-4x, and they found it acceptable, but windows 8 is really not a nice version to be working with...
It's a step backward, back on the same level as Windows 3.11 if you ask me!
Almost no control, no flexibility, runs slow on those slower tablet processors, is too large in size for an OS; and most of the time, the OS is not even able to do what you want to do, and if it does it, it won't do it very well, nor very fast!

I have used and worked on DOS and Windows based PCs. I think Windows 8 is fast. Boots up on my old Pentium 4 PC in less than 30 seconds. IE10 is a vast improvement over IE9. I hardly use IE9 opting for Google Chrome instead. For the average PC owner Windows 8 simplifies the use of their PC. The Metro interface kind of grows on you once you use it.


I'm not sure what you mean by lack of control because everything is there and very accessible. If you press the Windows key + X you can go under the hood of Windows 8. For those missing the old desktop, it's there. Missing the Start Menu, download Start8 by Stardock.

[fjtorres]

Windows 8 hasn't launched yet and there's already dozens of *free* start Button replacements. Some are even good.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33642_7...for-windows-8/

Think of them as bicycle training wheels, useful to get started but they'll soon come off for good.

[hrosvit]

On my Windows tablet, 7 took forever to boot. From a full off, it boots the Windows 8 consumer preview in about 15 seconds.

Just timed my iPad 3; I get to stare at the apple for 49 seconds from full off. Never been impressed by the boot time of Apple's mobile devices.

[xendula]

Originally Posted by hrosvit

On my Windows tablet, 7 took forever to boot. From a full off, it boots the Windows 8 consumer preview in about 15 seconds.

Just timed my iPad 3; I get to stare at the apple for 49 seconds from full off. Never been impressed by the boot time of Apple's mobile devices.

Yeah, just that you hardly ever need to reboot the iPad, while Win 7 forces you to reboot ever so often, if that's any indication of Win 8. I've had my iPad 1 from the day it became available until I got the iPad 3 on launch date (is that about 2 years?) and rebooted it maybe 3 or 4 times during that time frame, with daily extensive use.

[murraypaul]

Originally Posted by hrosvit

Just timed my iPad 3; I get to stare at the apple for 49 seconds from full off. Never been impressed by the boot time of Apple's mobile devices.

Why would you ever boot it?
Start time from sleeping is ~0 seconds.

[5thWiggle]

Originally Posted by murraypaul

Why would you ever boot it?
Start time from sleeping is ~0 seconds.

Agreed. I've only had to reboot my iOS devices about once or twice (it's older stuff, iOs 4). My android devices (range from gingerbread to ICS) all benefit from a daily "booting", and take 30-60 secs. Win7 laptop takes a (perceived) etenity come to life.

[hrosvit]

Originally Posted by 5thWiggle

Agreed. I've only had to reboot my iOS devices about once or twice (it's older stuff, iOs 4). My android devices (range from gingerbread to ICS) all benefit from a daily "booting", and take 30-60 secs. Win7 laptop takes a (perceived) etenity come to life.

Just comparing apples to apples (no pun intended). I can't compare my tablet with 8 on it, because it's at home and I'm at work, but I just woke my Windows 7 laptop from sleep, and it took a grand total of 5 seconds. Is five seconds more than "0 seconds"? Yes. Is 5 seconds unreasonable? No.

Especially if it comes with the benefits of a full operating system.

[murraypaul]

Originally Posted by hrosvit

Just comparing apples to apples (no pun intended). I can't compare my tablet with 8 on it, because it's at home and I'm at work, but I just woke my Windows 7 laptop from sleep, and it took a grand total of 5 seconds. Is five seconds more than "0 seconds"? Yes. Is 5 seconds unreasonable? No.

I'd agree, my Win7 laptop wakes up very speedily as well.

[Andy_T]

I never understood - using the "hibernate" (or "suspend-to-disk") mode on my XP laptop as "normal" procedure that saves the current RAM contents to harddisk and retrieves them again in ~ 15 seconds, why nobody has, so far, incorporated that into booting ... writing a copy of a "clean boot" RAM to harddisk and load that instead of going through the complete boot procedure.

Best regards,
Andy

[hrosvit]

Originally Posted by 5thWiggle

...all benefit from a daily "booting"

At some point during the day, I want to "boot" most of my devices, also.

[DustyDisks]

Originally Posted by hrosvit

At some point during the day, I want to "boot" most of my devices, also.

Running start or drop kick?

[murraypaul]

Originally Posted by Andy_T

I never understood - using the "hibernate" (or "suspend-to-disk") mode on my XP laptop as "normal" procedure that saves the current RAM contents to harddisk and retrieves them again in ~ 15 seconds, why nobody has, so far, incorporated that into booting ... writing a copy of a "clean boot" RAM to harddisk and load that instead of going through the complete boot procedure.

It would need to change every time you installed a driver or start-up program or changed some settings.