MobileRead E-Book Genre Lists

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by DaleDe

The word has already been changed to youth. No reason to continue this about the earlier proposed words.

Dale

Originally Posted by tompe

What are you saying here. Is it not allowed to correct incorrect information in a thread if the incorrect information is no longer central to the thread?

I have to agree here with tompe. There is areason to change things even after they've been put in place. You tell me one eBook shop that uses the term Youth instead of Young Adult. Youth is not used. Young Adult is used.

[nrapallo]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Now to work the current list into the newly proposed list....

• Action - goes away
• Graphic - I don't think we'll ever have a need for this one
• Mystery - becomes Mystery/Crime
• Poetry - stays
• Romance - stays
• SF&F - becomes separated out as Science Fiction and Fantasy
• Short Fiction - goes away
• Youth - becomes Young Adult and we add Children
• Biography - becomes Biography/Autobiography
• History - stays
• Philosophy - stays
• Reference - stays
• Spiritual - becomes Spiritual/Religion
• Other - becomes Other Fiction & Other non-Fiction

Now I know we will have to go back and sort out the existing prefixes. So the sooner this is sorted, the less work there will be to fix what needs fixing.

I too have found the current offering of Genre "lacking" and wish this is discussed soon.

I miss the "Classics" category as this is a convenient catch-all category for works of great esteem but obviously crosses many other genre. There is no right nor wrong answer; even implementing them all will not satisfy everyone.

Take a look at the Blackmask.com (www.munseys.com) categories:

• Action  • Australia  • Biography  • Canada  • Children  • Classic  • Critics  • Drama

• Education  • Elizabethans  • Enlightenment  • Esoteric  • Europa  • Fiction  • Folklore 
 
• History  • Horror  • Liberal Arts  • Mystery  • Nautical  • Nonfiction  • Orient Express

• Periodicals  • Philosophy  • Poetry  • Political Science • Pulp Fiction  • Reference  

• Religion  • Renaissance  • Satire  • Science  • Science Fiction  • Travel  

• Unclassified  • Western

There is a lot of redundancy there, but it can be parred down to a manage list with the amalgamation with the current one and the Fictionwise list.

Food for thought as I can't make the final selection of what goes and what stays!

[JSWolf]

nrapallo can you please post what you think is a good list for the genre prefixes? Thanks!

[nrapallo]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

nrapallo can you please post what you think is a good list for the genre prefixes? Thanks!

I was afraid you were going to ask, but here goes my preferences, along with your and some comparables from Fictionwise:

JSWolf		nrapallo		Fictionwise

Action 		Action		Suspense/Thriller 
Biography 		Biography 		
		Classics		
		Fiction		
History 		History		
		Horror		
Mystery 		Mystery 		Mystery/Crime 
		Nonfiction 		
Philosophy 		Philosophy 		
Poetry 		Poetry  		
Reference 		Reference		
Spiritual 		Religion		Spiritual/Religion 
		Science		Technology/Science (mind you there are few PD books)
SF&F 		Science Fiction 	Fantasy 
Youth		Young Adult 		
Other 		General		
Graphic 	 		
Short Fiction 			
Romance

A blank entry in my column (at the bottom) indicates I do not approve of that entry in your column. As this is very subjective, do not consider my list as exhaustive, but a starting point...

EDIT: added a picture of the above layout in case it shifts again AFTER I edited it!

[JSWolf]

I've tried to edit your lists so they look ok, but they really don't. Can you please edit your post in a way that is actually readable? Columns don't work.

[Alexander Turcic]

Tom, Dale, it's all central. We've had some internal discussions regarding the genres, and obviously it's more difficult to find a common ground than we thought (otherwise we wouldn't still be discussing this ).

Anyways, Jon made some new suggestions and I think we should give it some thoughts in what way we can further improve our current genre selection.

My only requirement is that we keep the final list somewhat small (genre lists from book stores are too specific for our purposes).

[nrapallo]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I've tried to edit your lists so they look ok, but they really don't. Can you please edit your post in a way that is actually readable? Columns don't work.

Done! I added a picture of the above layout in case it shifts again AFTER I edited it!

[pilotbob]

What would be really nice is if you could have a tagging system for the ebooks library rather than categories. Tag's are so much more flexible.

BOb

[Patricia]

We do have tags as well.

[pilotbob]

Originally Posted by Patricia

We do have tags as well.

Huh? You are going to totally have to tell me how to use the tags. I don't see a tag list or tag cloud anywhere when I select ebook from the menu.

BOb

[Patricia]

'Search' on the blue bar at the top of the page, then 'tag search'.
It's a relatively new feature and only recently uploaded books are tagged. I'm hoping to tag all mine in the next month or so.

[JSWolf]

nrapello the list you put on my side is the list of what is already defined. My list is the new list posted here even more pared down based on what genres I recall us actually having in the eBook uploads.

Fiction

• Historical Fiction
• Horror
• Humor
• Mystery/Crime
• Romance
• Science Fiction
• Suspense/Thriller
• Young Adult

Nonfiction

• Food/Recipes
• Biography/Autobiography
• History
• Personal Finance
• Politics/Government
• Reference
• Self Improvement
• Spiritual/Religion

Misc

• Other Fiction
• Other Non-Fiction
• Poetry
• Children

[pilotbob]

Originally Posted by Patricia

'Search' on the blue bar at the top of the page, then 'tag search'.
It's a relatively new feature and only recently uploaded books are tagged. I'm hoping to tag all mine in the next month or so.

Ah... I see it. Not a full tag system. Also, I expected tags for only ebooks, but it seems to include all forums.

(Tags would solve all the "where does this book go") because real tagging lets you set up a taxonomy where a book can fall into more than one catergory rather than a fully hierachical taxonomy.

(Also the Genre/Format should also be added to the tag taxonomy.)

BOb

[Alexander Turcic]

Thanks for the much-appreciated input. We've revised our genre selection and I hope that it's now more fitting for our purposes.

Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

Hi Alex,
i tried to add categories to the books i've uploaded previously, i can't find how to do it. is it to be added manually ? or is there a dropdown menu somewhere ?

Sorry, my mistake. Earlier it wasn't possible to edit the title or the prefix of the thread of an already uploaded e-book. This should be fixed.

[Jellby]

Originally Posted by Alexander Turcic

Sorry, my mistake. Earlier it wasn't possible to edit the title or the prefix of the thread of an already uploaded e-book. This should be fixed.

Thanks, that's great. It seems, however, that tags cannot be added to old threads, is this intentional?