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ahh that would be the immoral act
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What will prevent it happening? People behaving themselves. You tell me which is more likely. |
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Comparing to the situation discussed here: -- Obviously the food-stealing was more justified than the entertainment-stealing, despite the former being of a physical object. -- At the end of the movie, the children no longer have to steal food or entertainment because of being in a healthy family situation. If they nonetheless kept on sneaking into theaters, this would be clearly wrong. And much closer to a US college student, in 2012, using the darknet. At least, as I see it. Last edited by SteveEisenberg; 01-30-2012 at 08:06 PM. |
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that they wanted to learn and i had ways of teaching them safely. some of the blind archery students also shot rifles when time allowed. the blind folk just need confidence , proper coaching and audible feedback from the target.
edit: of course when i first heard the idea i thought the person who brought it up was either insane, intoxicated or quite possible both. ![]() Last edited by Dulin's Books; 01-30-2012 at 08:25 PM. |
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The government could, with a lot of cost and effort, stamp down on a lot of filesharing--with the side-effect of making a lot of businesses slow to a crawl. However, piracy won't be stopped nor even much slowed--the same practices that were used to exchanged files before the WWW took over would come back with a vengeance. Plus new methods that weren't possible fifteen years ago, when data carriers weren't so compact. Quote:
Digital piracy is never going to be "stopped". It could be mitigated--reduced to a level of nuisance rather than threat to livelihoods ("kids stealing chewing gum, not the Barbary Pirates," as Baen says)--but not by pretending that any corporate or government maneuver will make copying more difficult. They'll need to find something to sell as copies become cheap enough that "I have a copy and you want one" is not sufficiently compelling to get someone to hand over cash. Sell high-quality authorized version. Sell digitally-signed editions. Sell combo packs: buy the authorized ebook & get a coupon good for 20% off the pback. Sell sociality: buy the ebook; get access to a forum with author chats. Sell convenience: have an awesome website that people want to spend time at, and keep your customers from looking elsewhere when they buy. But "sell access to these words" is not going to be a long-term success plan. Publishers are fighting to deny this, because they were never aware how much the used book market supported them; they never understood that reading was often entirely disassociated from payments--and even more often disassociated from publisher-and-author payments. They're not going to be able to convince people that "you should read our book!" means "you should buy our book!"--it never has before. Neither is "sell access to these pictures and sounds." While the secondhand market for songs and movies was never as robust as books, it was there--and access to the entertainment was never entirely based on ability to pay. (I don't mean "stealing into movie houses." I mean watching the VCR tape at a friend's house, or going to a bar to listen to other people play songs in the jukebox.) The idea that every reader is a royalty-paying buyer has never been true, and attempts to make it that way will fail. Incompetent attempts will make for entertaining corporate flailings; more competent and severe attempts will result in a larger digital underground--and an internet that no longer serves as the backbone of US business and casual entertainment. |
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You said "illegal acts." I tried to discern your meaning & you quibble. I think that you have some vague idea that something is illegal but you really don't know what it is. You just kind of think it's anything involving copying without permission. Most people think as you apparently do. But they are wrong. You, too, are probably wrong but maybe you aren't. I can't tell until you get specific. But if you are just going to rely on saying "illegal acts" I'm going to conclude that you don't really understand the matter and your opinion isn't worth much attention. So let's have it - what do you think she wants to do that's illegal? Last edited by Harmon; 01-30-2012 at 10:02 PM. |
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Assuming that governments cannot enact laws and enforce them... assuming that legitimate businesses cannot create ways of functioning within those laws... assuming that life will somehow grind to a halt if this takes place... is ignoring thousands of years of established history. The web is just another tool, and it can be controlled and regulated. Even more importantly: No one likes laws on the surface, especially when they seem to restrict things they can do. However, if those laws prove to be beneficial to them, in the form of improved personal security, easier use or lower costs (or all of the above), people tend to accept and eventually support those laws. None of the stricter web laws we have discussed here will automatically result in the crash of civilization that so many people seem to expect. That is an over-reaction to the possibility of any new laws that is completely expected of people, but in the long-run, usually unfounded. Last edited by Steven Lyle Jordan; 01-30-2012 at 08:51 PM. |
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If anything, the entitlement is the ownership of "intellectual property". That's a relatively new concept in the history of humanity.
Why should people "own" ideas or images or ways that letters are arranged? Especially the way it is now, basically forever? Being able to own intangible things is kind of ridiculous, when you think about it.... |
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Just putting this out there
About 90% of my DVD, paper books, and in the old days VHS was bought second hand or given to me when the other person no longer wanted them, which is legal, no one got paid for my owning that copy. I in no way advocate piracy, I want my favourite authors to keep writing, but idiots like this irritate me. A pirated books/movie/music is not an automatic lost sale. Most people wouldn't have bought that item in the first place. |
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