Kindle Touch - first thoughts - Page 9

jocampo · 11-24-2011, 01:14 PM

I went to Target yesterday and had my "1st close encounter" with the new Kindle family.

I do like the Kindle wifi ergonomics. It feels nice on hands and good to have page turn buttons However, background looks more grey than previous Kindles. Now, the lack of 3G is a deal breaker for me.

I did not like the Kindle Touch. Is light and the touch feature is also cool, but feels weird on my hands. I found the lack of page turn buttons a huge miss, at least for me. Also, the demo does not have access to settings I think, but did not turn or rotate, so like other have confirmed, does not provide landscape.

Sticking to my Kindle 3G keyboard.

Blossom · 11-24-2011, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jocampo

I went to Target yesterday and had my "1st close encounter" with the new Kindle family.

I do like the Kindle wifi ergonomics. It feels nice on hands and good to have page turn buttons However, background looks more grey than previous Kindles. Now, the lack of 3G is a deal breaker for me.

There is a whole thread on the K4's grey background here.

The K4 is a neat little reader if you can stand the screen contrast. If you're reading in bright lighting or outside it may not be much of an issue but if you get one that has a grey background in normal lights it takes some getting use to. It's great for traveling because it's so small. It like a pocket reader with a 6" screen.

Barty · 11-24-2011, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Blossom

By using the Kindle Touch's web browser just log into Dropbox and download the book directly to your Kindle.

Doesn't this work on the k3? I know I can download mobi directly from instapaper.com. I can even sign in.

Blossom · 11-24-2011, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Barty

Doesn't this work on the k3? I know I can download mobi directly from instapaper.com. I can even sign in.

Yes it works on the K3, K4 and I am sure the Kindle Touch.

MsAstoria · 11-25-2011, 01:31 AM

I've had my KTouch now for a week and it is everything I wanted. A basic reader that is responsive to touch to turn pages, etc. The type is crisp and clear, and the unit is light enough to hold for comfortable reading even with a case on it. The advertising is unobtusive since its on the screensaver and again on the bottom of the content page. Wifi only is perfectly fine too. Very pleased, five stars recommendation from this reader.

pilotbob · 11-25-2011, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MsAstoria

I've had my KTouch now for a week and it is everything I wanted. A basic reader that is responsive to touch to turn pages, etc. The type is crisp and clear, and the unit is light enough to hold for comfortable reading even with a case on it. The advertising is unobtusive since its on the screensaver and again on the bottom of the content page. Wifi only is perfectly fine too. Very pleased, five stars recommendation from this reader.

"basic"? The Kindle Touch is the "top of the line" model that Amazon offers.

Perhaps by basic you mean "simple to use"?

I really like mine too...

BOb

sgtpep · 11-25-2011, 11:16 PM

Hey All! I just upgraded from a 1st Generation Kindle to the Kindle Touch. The original was a little clunky and big as a house, but I actually dug the shape and heft of it. Sad to see it go, but nevertheless, it was time to upgrade and I'm very impressed with the touch so far!

However, I'm having a hard time scrolling through menus. By that I mean, if I have 40+ books, which consists of about 6 pages of items, how do I get from page 1 to page 2 and so on? Or if I'm in the kindle store and there are 40 pages of recommendations... how do I get from page 1 to page 2 of the recs? If I try to press the right of the screen, it doesn't advance to the next page, but selects an item rather than advancing to the next page. Never had this problem with that silvery scroll bar. :P

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

nynaevelan · 11-25-2011, 11:28 PM

Swipe left to right to go forward and right to left to go backward.

pilotbob · 11-26-2011, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by nynaevelan

Swipe left to right to go forward and right to left to go backward.

Isn't that the other way 'round?

BOb

JoHunt · 11-26-2011, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sgtpep

However, I'm having a hard time scrolling through menus. By that I mean, if I have 40+ books, which consists of about 6 pages of items, how do I get from page 1 to page 2 and so on? Or if I'm in the kindle store and there are 40 pages of recommendations... how do I get from page 1 to page 2 of the recs?

To navigate between pages on a menu swipe up to get from page 1 to page 2 and down to get from page 2 to page 1 (just think of it as pushing the screen up or down).

I hope you enjoy your new KT - I sure am liking mine

tomsem · 11-26-2011, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by joehunt

To navigate between pages on a menu swipe up to get from page 1 to page 2 and down to get from page 2 to page 1 (just think of it as pushing the screen up or down).

I hope you enjoy your new KT - I sure am liking mine

I think the problem is that there is no way to jump to page 20/40, or 40/40. A 'scrubber' control would be very useful, especially if there were a popup widow that showed where you were in terms of alphabetical sort, etc. Swiping 40 times is no fun and is actually a worse user experience than we had before, where you could at least type in a page number or a letter of the alphabet, and jump there.

catsittingstill · 11-26-2011, 08:05 PM

What happens if you call up the on-screen keyboard, type in a number, and hit return?

I imagine this would the the KTouch equivalent of typing in a number using the physical keyboard; does it do the same thing?

VictoriaP · 11-26-2011, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tomsem

I think the problem is that there is no way to jump to page 20/40, or 40/40. A 'scrubber' control would be very useful, especially if there were a popup widow that showed where you were in terms of alphabetical sort, etc. Swiping 40 times is no fun and is actually a worse user experience than we had before, where you could at least type in a page number or a letter of the alphabet, and jump there.

Yes, there is. In a menu, such as the My Items list of your books, under the toolbar on the right is a "Page x of y" notation. Tap it. Up pops a Go To box where you can enter page numbers or the first letter(s) of a title you want to get to.

SCION · 11-26-2011, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by VictoriaP

Yes, there is. In a menu, such as the My Items list of your books, under the toolbar on the right is a "Page x of y" notation. Tap it. Up pops a Go To box where you can enter page numbers or the first letter(s) of a title you want to get to.

Thank you for confirming. I was saying to myself, "My goodness, what the heck did I buy?!"

I'll be sure to look for this as soon as I open the box.

Pieco · 11-27-2011, 03:23 PM

Since a few folks have asked for a comparison between models, and since I have a KT and an KK sitting here in front of me, I figured I'd oblige.

Weight: The K3/KK is about .5 oz heavier than the Touch. In other words, almost negligible. But I find that the KK has better balance, and is more comfortable to use one-handed as a result.

Thickness: The KT is a bit thicker, perhaps about 1.5mm more, than the K3/KK. I actually find it more comfortable. The thinner KK makes my hand cramp during extended reading sessions. But that's just holding it, not using it - see below.

Build quality: The Touch seems to use better quality plastics and has a more solid feel to it (but so does the K4). The K3/KK has always felt a bit flimsy to me, although it's take a fair amount of abuse and kept of working.

User Experience: This is very subjective, clearly. It could be that I'm just used to the K3/KK - I've had mine for 14 months, and read about 40 books on it. Keeping that in mind, here's my opinion: I hate using the Touch.

It seems that doing anything takes a fractional second more than the K3/KK. This includes flipping pages, scrolling, using the menus, you name it.

The one handed action is very uncomfortable. I miss the side buttons tremendously. I'm holding it such that I use my thumb to do swiping, and it doesn't feel natural.

The "every n" pages refresh is strangely jarring to me. When I first got the K3, I was going to return it because of what I called the "blackflash". But my friend told me that I wouldn't notice it after some time. And he was right.

But now I can't stop seeing it because it isn't constant. I find it very jarring.

Lastly, I find my own fingers to be a distraction while reading with the Touch.

My opinion? Either wait for a color e-Ink Kindle, which is most certainly coming, or score a cheap K3/KK.

Cheers,

jh

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11-25-2011, 11:16 PM	#127
sgtpep Junior Member Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2011 Device: Kindle Touch	Kindle Touch Menu Scrolling Hey All! I just upgraded from a 1st Generation Kindle to the Kindle Touch. The original was a little clunky and big as a house, but I actually dug the shape and heft of it. Sad to see it go, but nevertheless, it was time to upgrade and I'm very impressed with the touch so far! However, I'm having a hard time scrolling through menus. By that I mean, if I have 40+ books, which consists of about 6 pages of items, how do I get from page 1 to page 2 and so on? Or if I'm in the kindle store and there are 40 pages of recommendations... how do I get from page 1 to page 2 of the recs? If I try to press the right of the screen, it doesn't advance to the next page, but selects an item rather than advancing to the next page. Never had this problem with that silvery scroll bar. :P Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

11-27-2011, 03:23 PM	#135
Pieco Making Kindles Better Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2011 Device: K4, KT, KK	KT vs. KK Since a few folks have asked for a comparison between models, and since I have a KT and an KK sitting here in front of me, I figured I'd oblige. Weight: The K3/KK is about .5 oz heavier than the Touch. In other words, almost negligible. But I find that the KK has better balance, and is more comfortable to use one-handed as a result. Thickness: The KT is a bit thicker, perhaps about 1.5mm more, than the K3/KK. I actually find it more comfortable. The thinner KK makes my hand cramp during extended reading sessions. But that's just holding it, not using it - see below. Build quality: The Touch seems to use better quality plastics and has a more solid feel to it (but so does the K4). The K3/KK has always felt a bit flimsy to me, although it's take a fair amount of abuse and kept of working. User Experience: This is very subjective, clearly. It could be that I'm just used to the K3/KK - I've had mine for 14 months, and read about 40 books on it. Keeping that in mind, here's my opinion: I hate using the Touch. It seems that doing anything takes a fractional second more than the K3/KK. This includes flipping pages, scrolling, using the menus, you name it. The one handed action is very uncomfortable. I miss the side buttons tremendously. I'm holding it such that I use my thumb to do swiping, and it doesn't feel natural. The "every n" pages refresh is strangely jarring to me. When I first got the K3, I was going to return it because of what I called the "blackflash". But my friend told me that I wouldn't notice it after some time. And he was right. But now I can't stop seeing it because it isn't constant. I find it very jarring. Lastly, I find my own fingers to be a distraction while reading with the Touch. My opinion? Either wait for a color e-Ink Kindle, which is most certainly coming, or score a cheap K3/KK. Cheers, jh -- [Link deleted - MODERATOR] Last edited by Dr. Drib; 11-28-2011 at 06:40 AM.

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11-24-2011, 01:14 PM	#121
jocampo Layback feline Posts: 3,034 Karma: 6980745 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: USA Device: Oasis 2nd gen, Sony DPTS1, iPad Pro 10.5"	I went to Target yesterday and had my "1st close encounter" with the new Kindle family. I do like the Kindle wifi ergonomics. It feels nice on hands and good to have page turn buttons However, background looks more grey than previous Kindles. Now, the lack of 3G is a deal breaker for me. I did not like the Kindle Touch. Is light and the touch feature is also cool, but feels weird on my hands. I found the lack of page turn buttons a huge miss, at least for me. Also, the demo does not have access to settings I think, but did not turn or rotate, so like other have confirmed, does not provide landscape. Sticking to my Kindle 3G keyboard.

11-25-2011, 01:31 AM	#125
MsAstoria Evangelist Posts: 423 Karma: 47344 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Astoria, Oregon, USA Device: Kindle Fire HDX, iPhone (yes, I read on my phone)	I've had my KTouch now for a week and it is everything I wanted. A basic reader that is responsive to touch to turn pages, etc. The type is crisp and clear, and the unit is light enough to hold for comfortable reading even with a case on it. The advertising is unobtusive since its on the screensaver and again on the bottom of the content page. Wifi only is perfectly fine too. Very pleased, five stars recommendation from this reader.

11-25-2011, 11:28 PM	#128
nynaevelan eBook Junkie Posts: 1,526 Karma: 1464018 Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA Device: Kindle Fire 2020, Kindle PW2	Swipe left to right to go forward and right to left to go backward.

11-26-2011, 08:05 PM	#132
catsittingstill Guru Posts: 643 Karma: 551634 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: Kindle 1.0.8, iPod Touch, Kindle Keyboard	What happens if you call up the on-screen keyboard, type in a number, and hit return? I imagine this would the the KTouch equivalent of typing in a number using the physical keyboard; does it do the same thing?

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