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When a publisher embeds fonts in an ePub, 99% of the time, the main font used is enabled via an entry in body such as... body { display: block; font-family: "charis"; } What should happen is that ADE should use whatever font is defined to the definition of charis. In this case, it would be Charis SIL. Other readers would display the correct font on screen. Kobo ignores this because they have a bug in the font handling. If you look at any of the the new Star Wars eBooks, they come with Charis SIL as an embedded font. B&N, Sony, ADE for Windows or MAC, Pocketbook, and others will display Charis SIL. Kobo will not. Why not? Because it's a bug in the Kobo version of ADE. |
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I did the factory reset and everything works fine now. I just hope this doesn't happen to me with every Kobo release. I'm now going through the painful process of marking books in the shortlist. |
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It has never happened to me with a Touch update. You should be good to go now!
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You are missing the point here. If this is the way that the KOBO devs have intentionally programed the reader to behave it is NOT a bug. A bug is any behaviour contrary to the programmer's intention. It may be silly or stupid or just plain annoying, but it is not a bug unless it is unintentional. If I wrote a text editor that allways changed the text entered in lowercase to uppercase and upppercase to lowercase, that would be stupid and annoying but if it was my intention, it is NOT a bug. It is a matter of intent. If it operates as intended, it is not a bug. If it does not operate as intended, it is a bug. Except in the case where the bug is usefull, then it is called "an undocumented feature" ![]() |
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Maybe if you assume that kobo doesn't really believe their method of font selection will make embedded fonts impossible, then you could say it is a bug.
No doubt it's a "way of working" that should be changed as it trades in one problem for another. I wonder if the new sony prs t1, with user selectable fonts, will honor embedded fonts, at least optionally, AS WELL AS ANY SONY READER DOES NOW ![]() I don't know about the nook but display of embedded fonts in the sony is pretty limited too. So, they both suck, as far as this. |
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On my Kobo I have been using Sigil to remove references to embedded fonts, then using my favorite font flavor of the day.
Use of embedded fonts is not possible on the Kobo Touch? My knowledge of CSS would not fill a beer bottle cap, but lack of knowledge has NEVER stopped me from commenting before so here goes! To embed a font doesn't the font have to be on the device and the code has to reference the location? So if you embed a font shouldn't the code have something like: src:url(fonts/font-flavor.ttf) and font-flavor.ttf be in your fonts directory? None of this is functional on the Touch?? |
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Indeed, I think some clarification is required here regarding the difference between (a) actually including the font data (which is what I think of when I hear "embedded font"), and (b) merely referring to the font name in CSS -- and which of these two are being referred to in any given post.
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I updated yesterday and no problems. I was once more going through the memory/factory reset error and I had chosen to ignore it. Now after the update the error message is gone.
It's too bad it took as long as it did for Kobo to fix the problem because it really is a great device and I think their credibility went down a notch or two. However, with this update it looks like it's back to being a great device. |
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I am really quite curious about the specifics of the issue, but I guess it's wishful thinking to suppose they would divulge any details, as it could make their technical competence seem even worse. If it were possible in some (most?) cases to simply cancel and proceed, then it sounds to me like the conditions that bring up the screen were on the aggressive side -- that is, they designed it intending to err on the side of more false positives, thinking they would have fewer customer complaints because a reset would allow the device to recover and rebuild its database, etc. into a consistent, "within the boundaries" sort of state. If this line of thinking were the case (this is all just speculation on my part), it would seem their plans backfired on them, as users were more frustrated at being bothered by the screen so often (and the long reload times, in some users' cases).
But who knows what problems merely cancelling the reset would have allowed to fester in the device's system files. Certainly, any good software should be able to gracefully handle malformed data. For all we know, though, the 1.9.10 update did nothing more than alter the reset screen's trigger conditions so that it wouldn't appear as much (or at all?), even though nothing was done to actually address any data handling problems. ![]() But, again, just conjecture on my part. ![]() |
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The lack of other fonts like charis is NOT a bug!! You can add charis to Kobo if you wish. This is a feature not a bug!! ![]() |
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Fortunately it appears to be fixed now! |
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For example, if my ebook reader has a function to select the font for the book I'm currently reading, but changing the selected font does nothing. that's a bug. It may be standard practice to paint a bug as a feature by saying "I intended it to work that way", or to add a disclaimer that it only works correctly some of the time, but the reality is that it's still a bug. Last edited by FJames; 09-05-2011 at 11:27 AM. |
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I added an sd so I could keep the books I was reading on the device. Adding and subtracting books from the card by any method caused the reset screen. There were too many different scenarios and ways to cause the reset screen for me to think it was just a "tiny proportion" of owners. Instead I suspect the tiny proportion were the owners that hadn't experience it YET. So far, with the firmware upgrade, it is functioning as I had initially hoped it would. I think this problem was just further evidence the Kobo was rushed out the door to meet a sales department deadline. Maybe to introduce around the same time as the new Nook? This is a common way of doing business. Engineering/Software put bandaides on a not ready for prime time product to meet an externally imposed deadline! Fortunately it seems to be maturing into an excellent product.(Knock on wood) |
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