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OneandonlyDoc · 08-20-2011, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ApK

Saying a billion dollar company with the most successful ereader, and most popular ebook store is "shooting themselves in the foot" for not taking another path might be slightly over-stating it.

I'd agree that they could reach even more people and and have even more happy customers by adopting ADE/epub.

I'm not saying Amazon is shooting themselves in the foot--you've misread me (as Amardoll pointed out--thanks!). I'm talking about people who are promoting their Kindle-only ebooks. THEY are the ones shooting themselves in the foot.

I really don't care what Amazon does. I'll sell there, but I don't shop there.

@Ama -- it's her ^_^

JSWolf · 08-20-2011, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by starrigger

I just checked the Smashwords build of one of my own books, on my PDA in Freda (the only place where night-time mode has any relevance). It displayed just fine. I'm sure every reading app is different, though.

Take that ePub of your eBook, open it to look at the code and try to change the margins to 0 and embed a specific font and see how it's not as easy as it should be.

JSWolf · 08-20-2011, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by starrigger

Ah. Since my wife's iTouch died, I haven't had a good way to test anything in Stanza. But as one who uses night mode myself, that's not something I'd like to see.

Can you post a snippet of what the offending CSS code looks like? I wonder if it makes a difference whether the Word style (for Normal, for example) has the color set to "auto" rather than black. Maybe it's a problem that can be avoided by carefully setting the styles in Word.

The problem is that Word puts in a lot of extra code that's not needed. Like color codes and font codes (for example). These can make a mess. Just look at the code behind any of your SW ePub and you'll see that it's a fair mess.

Sure, it can be fixed, but the time to fix can be a lot and there is no reason for it. All Smashwords has to do is allow the author to upload an already created eBook in the various formats and done. Then you can make sure that what you post is clean code.

JSWolf · 08-20-2011, 07:54 PM

Thsi thread is not about ePub that won;t work on a Kindle. It's not about Kindle eBooks that won't work on a Sony Reader. It's about eBooks being sold at Amazon only. These eBooks are then not able to be put on a Sony Reader, nook, Kobo, etc. without having to maybe strip the DRM. In any case, you have to convert. Not everyone does that. Not everyone wants to do that. So why make us do that? You make us do that because you (the author) doesn't care about customers who do not deal with Kindle eBooks.

This is not about geo-restrictions and not being able to get an eBook because of that. This is about authors who should be avoided like the plague because they don't have a clue and/or they don't care.

carld · 08-20-2011, 08:12 PM

Really? Then I await your thread criticizing B&N with equal fervor.

NYT's WikiLeaks e-book: B&N exclusive

Ron. · 08-20-2011, 08:25 PM

I just don't see how it's a big deal, not everything sold at walmart is available at target but people don't seem to upset about it... Personally I would rather not buy any books from penguin publishing, should I cry because the fountainhead is only available as an ebook from penguin ?

ehh...

JSWolf · 08-20-2011, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by carld

Really? Then I await your thread criticizing B&N with equal fervor.

NYT's WikiLeaks e-book: B&N exclusive

That doesn't say it's exclusive to B&N. Just that you can only preorder it at B&N. If it's only released at B&N, then come say something about it. That is not a big deal.

JSWolf · 08-20-2011, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron.

I just don't see how it's a big deal, not everything sold at walmart is available at target but people don't seem to upset about it... Personally I would rather not buy any books from penguin publishing, should I cry because the fountainhead is only available as an ebook from penguin ?

ehh...

This is not the same thing as say a DVD available at Walmart not being available at Target as that DVD will work in my DVD player.

But because we have different formats, it is a big deal. You cannot buy an eBook at Sony to use on a Kindle. Not can you buy an eBook from Amazon to work on a Sony. So yes, it is a big deal.

As for The Fontainhead that's personal choice.

Ron. · 08-20-2011, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

This is not the same thing as say a DVD available at Walmart not being available at Target as that DVD will work in my DVD player.

But because we have different formats, it is a big deal. You cannot buy an eBook at Sony to use on a Kindle. Not can you buy an eBook from Amazon to work on a Sony. So yes, it is a big deal.

As for The Fontainhead that's personal choice.

you can't play the latest brittany spears album on your 8 track player either because it's only offered in CD, buy a kindle problem solved or read a different book.

not buying from amazon is a personal choice too.

GoSharks · 08-20-2011, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Thsi thread is not about ePub that won;t work on a Kindle. It's not about Kindle eBooks that won't work on a Sony Reader. It's about eBooks being sold at Amazon only. These eBooks are then not able to be put on a Sony Reader, nook, Kobo, etc. without having to maybe strip the DRM. In any case, you have to convert. Not everyone does that. Not everyone wants to do that. So why make us do that? You make us do that because you (the author) doesn't care about customers who do not deal with Kindle eBooks.

This is not about geo-restrictions and not being able to get an eBook because of that. This is about authors who should be avoided like the plague because they don't have a clue and/or they don't care.

You're right, this thread is not about any of those things... it's about you're personal vendetta against Kindles, Mobi, and especially all things Amazon. Please give it a rest....

RockdaMan · 08-21-2011, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

When Amazon has an exclusive eBook, that is a monopoly for that eBook. That eBook may only work with Amazon's software/hardware. The author is limiting the potential number of customers

That is that authors right, no?

RockdaMan · 08-21-2011, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ProfCrash

no EPub

RockdaMan · 08-21-2011, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

you (the author) doesn't care about customers

Every successful business determines its optimal reach and reaches no farther. Apple is perhaps the most successful company in the US and they are very conservative in what they decide to engage on. They are usually successful too.

RockdaMan · 08-21-2011, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by GoSharks

You're right, this thread is not about any of those things... it's about you're personal vendetta against Kindles, Mobi, and especially all things Amazon. Please give it a rest....

OneandonlyDoc · 08-21-2011, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by GoSharks

You're right, this thread is not about any of those things... it's about you're personal vendetta against Kindles, Mobi, and especially all things Amazon. Please give it a rest....

I don't think that's it at all. It's just wanting people to take into account a wider customer base. That's all.

08-20-2011, 08:12 PM	#125
carld Wizard Posts: 2,698 Karma: 4748723 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	Really? Then I await your thread criticizing B&N with equal fervor. NYT's WikiLeaks e-book: B&N exclusive Last edited by carld; 08-20-2011 at 08:14 PM.

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JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,750 Karma: 145864619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Thsi thread is not about ePub that won;t work on a Kindle. It's not about Kindle eBooks that won't work on a Sony Reader. It's about eBooks being sold at Amazon only. These eBooks are then not able to be put on a Sony Reader, nook, Kobo, etc. without having to maybe strip the DRM. In any case, you have to convert. Not everyone does that. Not everyone wants to do that. So why make us do that? You make us do that because you (the author) doesn't care about customers who do not deal with Kindle eBooks. This is not about geo-restrictions and not being able to get an eBook because of that. This is about authors who should be avoided like the plague because they don't have a clue and/or they don't care.

08-20-2011, 08:25 PM	#126
Ron. Evangelist Posts: 448 Karma: 864744 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: Kindle 3, LookBook, Nook Simple Touch	I just don't see how it's a big deal, not everything sold at walmart is available at target but people don't seem to upset about it... Personally I would rather not buy any books from penguin publishing, should I cry because the fountainhead is only available as an ebook from penguin ? ehh...

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