Development Ermine experiences

Originally Posted by glen

I let my edge hibernate over night (something I never did with dingo), and it locked up when I tried to take it out of hibernation. In addition, my battery went from ~87% to ~23%. I still don't know what is causing the lockups.

My EE has also started locking up, although it's maintained battery power nicely, after hibernating. At first I thought locking the screen before closing would prevent the problem, but it doesn't. Is there some way to turn off hibernation and just go back to old fashioned sleeping? The frustrating thing is that I have had zero problem with this on the PE, which has come out of hibernation each and every time with no problem and loses almost no battery power at all.

Yeah, I'm not going to install Ermine on my main eDGe. Just not enough benefit to make up for the instability, but I'll keep it installed on my backup eDGe for now so I can (sort of) work with landscape PDFs, though even that functionality seems a bit dicey at times.

I installed Ermine on a clean machine (I installed Dingo 1.11 with golden update and then right away installed Ermine). I installed all the newer versions of apps after the upgrade.
Since the update, I have put EE on hibernation mode about 15 times (including a few over night ones). Happy to say that so far, no lockups. So I am guessing it has to do with an older app?

The *only* issue I have experienced so far is the browser closing down randomly. Dolphin HD does it too. Opera 11 (not mini) has not done it so far but I have not used it heavily enough to be sure.

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My device: EE

I know these are petty complaints, but I really preferred the look of the older operating system. I lost my wallpaper with the Edge Logo. I really liked those, but now I am limited to just the bland colored backgrounds or the overly gaudy ones that turn my stomach. I wish I knew where I could get a set of the old wallpapers to add to my picture gallery so I could install them that way. I don't particularly like the giant lock/unlock and sound on/off buttons and I don't like the new analog clock. I can't understand why we don't have options to change the clock design.

Now onto more substantial issues: The browser keeps shutting down which is very annoying. I installed Opera but I found it hard to use. I installed Adobe Reader from the Amazon Market, but it shuts down the instant I select a document. And on the e-ink side, when I rotate to landscape and then go back to portrait, it leaves a dirty trail of e-ink behind, and once I push one of the side to side arrows in landscape mode, I can no longer re-center the document. Also, when it first starts, the bottom third of the e-ink screen goes completely black which just freaks me out until it returns to normal!

Now the reasons why I won't revert to the old Dingo: (1) I couldn't use Adobe Reader on that system either. (2) I didn't have any e-ink landscape mode with Dingo, so complaining about what's new but doesn't work right is stupid when there are several new things that really work well and it still does everything it did under Dingo. (3) With Dingo I usually got an error message when I tried to watch a video from a website other than Youtube. So far with Ermine every video I have tried to watch has run perfectly until the browser shuts down. (3) Apps load much faster. (4) I have access to apps that I never had before.

I don't understand why people would throw away their EE or sell it on Ebay for pennies just because the company went out of business. It does everything it did before the company went under and will continue to do so until it breaks. I bought mine for two reasons: (1) so I could look at a file folder full of PDF documents on the e-ink side in direct sunlight and have an easy to navigate table of contents on the LCD side, and (2) I wanted a PDF reader that I could see in direct sunlight (in other words not an LCD) that had a screen which was big enough to actually read an 11 inch PDF without having to scroll all over the place. My EE did both and still does. Nothing else on the market comes anywhere close. The closest is the Kindle DX and that's almost as expensive as an Edge for just one screen. If I wanted the features of a Galaxy, I would have bought a Galaxy. It certainly would have been lighter!!! And besides, I don't think that the EE hardware will handle the demands of an Android 3 or a Honeycomb operating system upgrade. For that we would have had to buy a new machine anyway.

To me the bottom line is if you want to buy a TABLET, buy a tablet and steer clear of the EE or PE. If you want an e-ink reader with a really big screen that comes with a second screen that just happens to run Android Apps, this is a no brainer, even if the company is defunct.

My problems with Ermine: My EE will not read my SD card, when it was NO problem before the switch. When I download the Amazon app store, I can't install it. It just sticks to the screen saying, "Installing". Even after successful re-registering my EE, the Entourage store will not recognize my EE. When I try to download my books from my 'purchased' section of the Entourage store, it says "Login Failure, could not authenticate your eDGe account". I try to connect my EE to my laptop and as soon as I plug the mini-USB into the EE the LCD screen goes dark and stays that way until I take out the battery. One time when an icon did show up on my computer listed as "E drive", it stuck there as if it was trying to still connect and when I double clicked on the e drive, it was blank. So there is no way for me to even sideload my favorite APK's. I factory reset my EE, but that still did not help.

Any ideas anyone?

any1 know when this version will be released as a stable version ?

lol Have you been reading these forums (or "fora", sigh...) at all?

Assume the stable version will never be released. We'll be pleasantly surprised if it is. enTourage says *nothing* about it's future plans, so the stable version will be a surprise whenever it comes.

Originally Posted by borisb

lol Have you been reading these forums (or "fora", sigh...) at all?

Assume the stable version will never be released. We'll be pleasantly surprised if it is. enTourage says *nothing* about it's future plans, so the stable version will be a surprise whenever it comes.

the support tech at Entourage that I spoke to yesterday said that they are indeed working on the final release and also new 'hardware'. He was a bit evasive about the future of the company, however.

Originally Posted by Bingo

any1 know when this version will be released as a stable version ?

I don't think there are any apps for feeding and grooming horses, so what would be the point?

Originally Posted by guyjack

the support tech at Entourage that I spoke to yesterday said that they are indeed working on the final release and also new 'hardware'. He was a bit evasive about the future of the company, however.

Interesting stuff. I am surprised you received answers at all, even though a bit evasive. New hardware would be very interesting... and surprising as well.

Originally Posted by User since December

I don't understand why people would throw away their EE or sell it on Ebay for pennies just because the company went out of business. It does everything it did before the company went under and will continue to do so until it breaks. .....I don't think that the EE hardware will handle the demands of an Android 3 or a Honeycomb operating system upgrade. For that we would have had to buy a new machine anyway. ....If you want an e-ink reader with a really big screen that comes with a second screen that just happens to run Android Apps, this is a no brainer, even if the company is defunct.

These are extremely cogent comments and I think you are right on target.

Originally Posted by alefor

Interesting stuff. I am surprised you received answers at all, even though a bit evasive. New hardware would be very interesting... and surprising as well.

I thought so too, but I am not discounting the fact that he may have just been shining me on.

Originally Posted by adiposius maximus

i don't think there are any apps for feeding and grooming horses, so what would be the point?

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I just did a little research on Asghar Mostafi and discovered that the 3 other corporations he started (that I know of) were "acquired" by other companies, one after a successful IPO launch. i.e. Vinci Systems acquired after 2 years by Tellabs; Advanced Switching Communications IPO in 2000, incorporated 2001, acquired by NSGDatacom 2002; ISDN Systems Corp. acquired by US Robotics (now 3Com) -- don't know the timing on the last.

Seems to me Mr. Mostafi has a history of founding startups which he then passes along before starting his next project. I believe he is still, or was still, on the board of directors of his old companies. Perhaps he had a buyer in mind all along?? Perhaps he has proven that this concept can work, and now someone else will be stepping in to run with the ball?

I am actually more optimistic now than ever (although there are bound to be changes).

Again today, after a long hibernation (about 10 Hours) my WiFi would not connect. It said disconnected, showed my network (and all the other visible and remembered networks) and only reported error when I clicked on connect. Again, a reboot solved it.