Silliness Airport security decisions? - Page 9

Steven Lyle Jordan · 11-19-2010, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweetpea

Well, after seeing a Discovery show yesterday, I'm more and more sure that most Americans are crazy! They go by plane while they have the most magnificent areas to pass through by train!

Well, if the government would give us decent trains to ride on, I'd use 'em! The biggest reason we have this airport security issue is that Americans opted to fly, and the government let them, not giving them any viable alternatives (like trains).

kindlekitten · 11-19-2010, 09:21 AM

the government didn't give us the air travel system, just the guidelines. also the government is not involved with the current rail system (except forthrowing a bunch of money at AMTRAK awhile back), I don't know why you put the onus on them. both freight and passenger are privatized

Steven Lyle Jordan · 11-19-2010, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by kindlekitten

the government didn't give us the air travel system, just the guidelines. also the government is not involved with the current rail system (except forthrowing a bunch of money at AMTRAK awhile back), I don't know why you put the onus on them. both freight and passenger are privatized

Because both are regulated by government agencies who set the guidelines, and have a hand in guiding transit systems, incentivizing and/or subsidizing commercial efforts, or creating them themselves if private organizations don't follow through.

The government could have stepped in and taken over AMTRAK longer-term, developing it into a world-class system nationwide. It might not have been the most short-term economical thing to do at the time, but it was the most long-term economical thing to do, and the most logical.

But with airlines already flying, and the public willing to fly 'em, they didn't see the need, didn't want to spend the money, and let it go.

One of government's jobs is to do the things the people need, but won't do for themselves. I'm not saying the government is solely, directly responsible for the U.S. having no good train system. But they should have put forth much more effort to make sure we'd have one.

happy_terd · 11-19-2010, 10:14 AM

It isn't a right to go into Walmart, it is a privilege. They should be allowed to grope us along with the receipt check procedure that they do. If we don't like it then we can shop somewhere else.

kennyc · 11-19-2010, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by happy_terd

It isn't a right to go into Walmart, it is a privilege. They should be allowed to grope us along with the receipt check procedure that they do. If we don't like it then we can shop somewhere else.

Ah, so they're replacing the greeters with gropers.

happy_terd · 11-19-2010, 10:38 AM

The scary thing is that they are all Tom's age.

bjones6416 · 11-19-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

Ah, so they're replacing the greeters with gropers.

Hey, that's great! I'm gonna go apply...

E-e-e-w-w. Maybe not.

pholy · 11-19-2010, 10:55 AM

Now, now, Betty, groping is a (dirty old) man's job... even in our enlightened age.

bjones6416 · 11-19-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by pholy

Now, now, Betty, groping is a (dirty old) man's job... even in our enlightened age.

I know, I WANT to be equal and all, but...

E-e-e-w-w-w.

kennyc · 11-19-2010, 11:00 AM

And we're talking same-sex gropers so isn't there a reason for the religious right to get up in arms about this.

kindlekitten · 11-19-2010, 11:08 AM

back to the airport bit... I simply cannot get upset about it (unless it is proven that the rads are harmful). going through these scanners are a hell of a lot faster than the metal detectors or the pat downs. they also now know if it is an underwire of a bra, vs. the wire of a bomb. I heard on a news report yesterday that they are considering replacing the software to portray a cartoonish figure of the human and it would just highlight a questionable area that showed up. the images I have seen really are not all that graphic to begin with.

I draw the line at body cavity searches.

pholy · 11-19-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

And we're talking same-sex gropers so isn't there a reason for the religious right to get up in arms about this.

What! Wait! You mean I'd have to do the men, too?

Ewwwww!

I'm outta there!

dsvick · 11-19-2010, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bjones6416

Hey, that's great! I'm gonna go apply...

E-e-e-w-w. Maybe not.

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Originally Posted by pholy

Now, now, Betty, groping is a (dirty old) man's job... even in our enlightened age.

Before either of you dahs out to fill out an application I'd like to direct your attention here: http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?page_id=9798

These are your gropees ..... still interested?

kennyc · 11-19-2010, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dsvick

Before either of you dahs out to fill out an application I'd like to direct your attention here: http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?page_id=9798

These are your gropees ..... still interested?

WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! Do not visit that link unless you want to have to use eye-Bleach afterwards!!

sunnysmiles · 11-19-2010, 12:13 PM

I think a lot of these so called plots have been conceived by the security services to demonise a whole section of the community for their so called war on terror . People have sleepwalked into loosing a lot of their liberties due to this so called war on terror . In Uk the Ricin plot turned out to be fake and many other plots.

I do not feel comfortable at all at the idea of walking through these scanners nor am I happy to be intimately groped in Public . I dont mind a pat down . For me modesty is an important part of my life .

View Poll Results: What decision will you be making for AIT scanners?
Bring on the naked photos	21	21.88%
I'll have the groper please	6	6.25%
I'll strip naked and let everyone have a look	16	16.67%
I won't fly	36	37.50%
I have to fly for business but no way are my kids going through this	8	8.33%
I don't fly	9	9.38%
Voters: 96. You may not vote on this poll

11-19-2010, 12:13 PM	#135
sunnysmiles Addict Posts: 279 Karma: 1188010 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: London Device: I pad air, kindle pw2 and kindle touch , kindle had fire Nook pad nook	I think a lot of these so called plots have been conceived by the security services to demonise a whole section of the community for their so called war on terror . People have sleepwalked into loosing a lot of their liberties due to this so called war on terror . In Uk the Ricin plot turned out to be fake and many other plots. I do not feel comfortable at all at the idea of walking through these scanners nor am I happy to be intimately groped in Public . I dont mind a pat down . For me modesty is an important part of my life . Last edited by sunnysmiles; 11-19-2010 at 12:19 PM.

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11-19-2010, 09:21 AM	#122
kindlekitten Professional Adventuress Posts: 13,368 Karma: 50260224 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Olympic Peninsula on the OTHER Washington! (the big green clean one on the west coast!) Device: Kindle, the original! Times Two! and gifting an International Kindle	the government didn't give us the air travel system, just the guidelines. also the government is not involved with the current rail system (except forthrowing a bunch of money at AMTRAK awhile back), I don't know why you put the onus on them. both freight and passenger are privatized

11-19-2010, 10:14 AM	#124
happy_terd Banned Posts: 13,045 Karma: 10105011 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Finally made it to Walmart. Device: PRS 420	It isn't a right to go into Walmart, it is a privilege. They should be allowed to grope us along with the receipt check procedure that they do. If we don't like it then we can shop somewhere else.

11-19-2010, 10:38 AM	#126
happy_terd Banned Posts: 13,045 Karma: 10105011 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Finally made it to Walmart. Device: PRS 420	The scary thing is that they are all Tom's age.

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pholy Booklegger Posts: 1,801 Karma: 7999816 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Device: BeBook(1 & 2010), PEZ, PRS-505, Kobo BT, PRS-T1, Playbook, Kobo Touch	Now, now, Betty, groping is a (dirty old) man's job... even in our enlightened age.

11-19-2010, 11:00 AM	#130
kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,904 Karma: 119230421 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2; Kindle Fire	And we're talking same-sex gropers so isn't there a reason for the religious right to get up in arms about this.

11-19-2010, 11:08 AM	#131
kindlekitten Professional Adventuress Posts: 13,368 Karma: 50260224 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Olympic Peninsula on the OTHER Washington! (the big green clean one on the west coast!) Device: Kindle, the original! Times Two! and gifting an International Kindle	back to the airport bit... I simply cannot get upset about it (unless it is proven that the rads are harmful). going through these scanners are a hell of a lot faster than the metal detectors or the pat downs. they also now know if it is an underwire of a bra, vs. the wire of a bomb. I heard on a news report yesterday that they are considering replacing the software to portray a cartoonish figure of the human and it would just highlight a questionable area that showed up. the images I have seen really are not all that graphic to begin with. I draw the line at body cavity searches.

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