Seriously thoughtful A Life ?

[GeoffC]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

Maybe they have answers to all these questions, and more.

My question would be, why are we assuming the worst of people?

I wasn't aware that I was ....

[AprilHare]

Originally Posted by Teyrnon

Maybe he has it backed up in the cloud?

Backing up DRM'd stuff is a trick.

[DixieGal]

Dippies. I like that. Sure, it's weird, but if it were not, they would not be newsworthy. They are young and healthy, and convinced that they have found something better. Eventually they will grow up and get pulled back into society. Meanwhile, they will entertain us normals with their know-it-all attitudes.

[Sparrow]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

My question would be, why are we assuming the worst of people?

Originally Posted by GeoffC

I wasn't aware that I was ....

I wasn't thinking of anyone in particular Geoff - just the general tone of the debate thus far. (And a seemingly universal inclination, which I share, to react negatively to 'weird' ideas at first.)
Although I was a bit puzzled by :

Originally Posted by GeoffC

No meaningful social experience other than one that relies seemingly heavily on the charity of ones friends - always assuming that there will be someone willing to provide a space for each night, no matter what that someone has planned for themselves.

Seemed to be a lot of assumptions there, and none of them positive - but maybe I'm assuming the worst.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by DixieGal

Dippies. I like that. Sure, it's weird, but if it were not, they would not be newsworthy. They are young and healthy, and convinced that they have found something better. Eventually they will grow up and get pulled back into society. Meanwhile, they will entertain us normals with their know-it-all attitudes.

Yeah this reminds me of a poem I wrote....not a very good one ... but with this thought exactly in mind...let's see....

yeah, I did post it on my website: http://www.kacweb.com/poems/nolongerdressedinblack.html



No Longer Dressed in Black

They no longer dress in black,
they've become accountants,
clerks, engineers and thieves.

Cobain is dead and so is Lennon
that mop-top leader of revolutions.

Now middle-American angst
replaces the illusion, replaces the
heroes pushed beyond death, the
black that waits for us all.

Only the Goths are left and they
never bought into it anyway, their
blackness worn only on their sleeves,
a spacesuit insulating them from society.

They used to wear black, these clerks,
thieves, accountants; clinging to it,
as if to hope, but knowing there was no
challenge, no future, no reason to believe.

They were pulled inexorably
into society, depressed enough
to go along, depressed enough
to suck the blackness into their bodies
and smile as they hand you your change.


Kenny A. Chaffin - 6/26/01

[DixieGal]

Oh Kenny, that's depressing.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by DixieGal

Oh Kenny, that's depressing.

It's a poet's life.

[nohmi2]

Originally Posted by beppe

After many years I have a new child of my own, a girl (3 1/2). Gifts, true gifts, are only Xmas and birthday. Other things just appear. In abundance. She never asls buy me this or that. She has so much at home. A mix of feminine and maschuline, she will choose what to be. Good quality with thought and design behind and also cheap stuff so she does not become a snob. Avoiding carefully certain heavily merchandized objects. Many books that she adores. Two days ago, for the first time she took some of our books from the lower shelf. A picasso, that she looked curiously. An Historical Atlas, that she examined intentely. I gave her a big tome, a knowledge enciclopedya that I bought for her last winter. I told her that it belonged to her and that she could read it any time she wanted but with some of us with her.
We watched and recognized the moon and the stars (she handling it). She went on the other end of the library where we keep our comics collection. She took a big tome of Donald Duck stories.I told her that it also belonged to her and that she could read it whenever she wanted, and before she started to look at it inside, I told her to put away the other one, which she did.

She plays with creative toys, Duplo, wooden boxes doll house, kitchen implements and recently real food. Now she is more interested in running around and jumping on her little red wagon. She screams happiness.

Mazel tov!!! Lovely post and very,very true about how it should be done.

Cheers.

[dsvick]

Regardless of whether or not we are being too hard on them - and I agree, we might be, I think they're going to Darwin themselves out of things anyway. It won't be the survival of the fittest that gets them it will be the most suitable person gets mated with...

Hi, I'm Chris.
...
Becky!? That's a pretty name.
...
Thanks. Would you like to go for a drink or cup of coffee after work?
...
That's great. Close to home? Well, no anywhere is good actually, you pick.
....
Cool, see there tonight.

[several hours later]
Hey there, wow you look really nice.
...
No, I didn't have time to go to Bob's, errr, home and change. What would you like to drink?
...
[later]
Sure, let's get out of here. A walk through the park would be great! Let me grab my back pack under the table.
[rustling]
oops sorry, didn't mean to grab your leg, could you kick my keyboard over here, it by your left foot. ... Great thanks.
Ok, let's go.
....
Well, yea, you're right I do carry this everywhere I go. It's got all my stuff in it.
....
No, I mean it has all my stuff. Well, except for my bike, that's outside, I'll have to get it when we leave.

[later]
That was really fun we should do it again. Sorry for the leg thing earlier, and for running your foot over with the bike.
[hugging ... kissing]
mmm, I like you too.
[kissing]
....
Sure, I'd love to spend some time alone with you.
...
Now!? umm, ok hold on, I've got to make a phone call.

[dialing]
Bob? Hey it's me Chris. You know I really appreciate -
....
Oh, she is? The kids too? Well, no you're right, I probably shouldn't be exposed.
...
ok, thanks.

[dialing]
Hey Steve, it me Chris. What are you doing tonight?
...
Oh really, a little party huh? Can me and a friend join?
...
Oh, I see. But, well, I was going to get you new box of cereal.
...
uh huh, ok, ok. I got it.

[dialing]
Marcie, hey it's your big bro Chris. Remember a month or so ago when you said I could -
....
uh huh.
....
right
....
Mom said what?
....
That you shouldn't encourage what!?
...
But she doesn't understand what I'm trying to do, the statement I'm making, the stand against -
...
well, no, not so much. Just for the night.
...
Awesome, you're the best Marcie. I uh, do have a friend .. are you, umm, going out anywhere, maybe, for an hour or so?...
Hello?!
Marcie?!

[turning back around]
Wow Becky, I'm really embarrassed. I didn't think ....
Becky?!

[looking, turning]
Becky .... ?

[shoulders slumping]
becky.... ?

[shuffling off]
why does this keep happening....

[GeoffC]

My thoughts too ....

[Lexi Revellian]

Lol. Solves the problem of non-minimalist children, too.

[bjones6416]

Originally Posted by dsvick

[shuffling off]
why does this keep happening....

Hahahahaha!!

Love this. Sent karma.

[Ben Thornton]

Or:

He: "I only do digital"
She: "So, you don't want to get physical?"
He: "Actually, I was thinking of re-entering, um, society."

[ardeegee]

Originally Posted by beppe

The closing up of self on nothing is a very old practice. In Japan there is a large proportion of young people closed up in their room with just the screen of the computer as a window on something else than the internal void. They even have a name.

And that name is "hikikomori" and it is considered to be a social disorder or mental illness.

http://mdn.mainichi.jp/perspectives/...na007000c.html

[GeoffC]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

I wasn't thinking of anyone in particular Geoff - just the general tone of the debate thus far. (And a seemingly universal inclination, which I share, to react negatively to 'weird' ideas at first.)
Although I was a bit puzzled by :



Seemed to be a lot of assumptions there, and none of them positive - but maybe I'm assuming the worst.

I'm beginning to converge a little on why I find the concept sad.

The minimalistic nature I accept and, as someone who lives with a bit of clutter, I applaud. If, however, they lived mainly from hotels/hostels then I would be more sympathetic to this lifestyle (although as I've already mentioned I doubt it sustainable). There is a parallel to some extent with an OAP couple who live in Travelodge rooms, moving from one lodge site to another (I think it's Travelodge).

It's the imposition (and it can be nothing more) upon friends that I have an issue with.