Authors pushing books - Page 8

Worldwalker · 06-23-2010, 11:11 PM

That's why I've been pushing so annoyingly* hard for the "Book Fair" forum: it would be like a giant "Endless Plug Your Novel" thread -- except much more useful. I'll admit, I've never actually dug through that thread; the size is just too intimidating. I'd much prefer a forum where I could browse the post titles (please please pleasepleaseplease with genre tags!) and pick out the specific books that interested me.

*if I'm too annoying about it, tell me!

Ea · 06-24-2010, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Drib

To all Members (not Moderators) who have posted here about their concern:

I feel your frustration. I feel like MobileRead has become some kind of dumping ground for authors to promote their books - the authors who endlessly promote their SAME books, I mean.

<...>

I have made it my personal mission to clean up this mess. I am not acting alone. We Moderators are having a discussion on this right now (as another Moderator recently said).

<...>

I have moved a LOT of threads and I have PMed a LOT of authors. Now, having expressed that, I want to reassure the group of authors and other posters here that I am, indeed, on your side but the rules have to be either rewritten or clarified - and I am expressing solely MY opinion here and cannot speak for other Moderators; - or else, MobileRead runs the risk of continuing to be one big, unruly three-ring circus without any boundaries for containment. And the elephants are beginning to cross the circle.
<...>

I'm writing here as a Moderator, so I will sign it as such:

Don
(Moderator)

(shortened for brevity, emphasis mine)
Thanks you, these are exactly my concerns

It's my opinion that if possible, some kind of technical limitation enforced on signatures would be the best way forward - then people don't have to think very much about it. In any case, clearer rules would not hurt.

montsnmags · 06-24-2010, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worldwalker

That's why I've been pushing so annoyingly* hard for the "Book Fair" forum: it would be like a giant "Endless Plug Your Novel" thread -- except much more useful. I'll admit, I've never actually dug through that thread; the size is just too intimidating. I'd much prefer a forum where I could browse the post titles (please please pleasepleaseplease with genre tags!) and pick out the specific books that interested me.

*if I'm too annoying about it, tell me!

It's not annoying (okay, maybe a little bit...nah!

). The conversation here is what is driving conversation in the back room too. Everyone's ideas and thoughts are, as you'd expect, enormously helpful. Don't stop.

Cheers,
Marc

GeoffC · 06-24-2010, 06:03 AM

There are too many new members who join and post once or twice, solely in order to plug their wares.

Perhaps this ought to be monitored in a way that if a member does not post further within (say) 3 months, their membership is cancelled....

omk3 · 06-24-2010, 06:08 AM

Dr Drib, the shamelessly plug your novel thread was a good idea and is generally fun, though I'm not sure it attracts people who are only interested in plugging their book as opposed to generally participating in the forum. It is also not very useful to readers, because, as Worldwalker said, its size is intimidating. I really don't want to plough through hundreds of posts to find that one book that I remember vaguely sounded interesting.
The Book Fair, and a more specific rule for signatures, sound like the best solutions to me, that will help both readers and writers accomplish their goals.

Dr. Drib · 06-24-2010, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worldwalker

That's why I've been pushing so annoyingly* hard for the "Book Fair" forum: it would be like a giant "Endless Plug Your Novel" thread -- except much more useful. I'll admit, I've never actually dug through that thread; the size is just too intimidating. I'd much prefer a forum where I could browse the post titles (please please pleasepleaseplease with genre tags!) and pick out the specific books that interested me.

*if I'm too annoying about it, tell me!

You have NOT been annoying; if anything, it is exactly your concerns that (speaking for myself) have necessitated a driving need for reform.

Don
(Moderator)

pshrynk · 06-24-2010, 09:26 AM

Just because it has not been explicitly stated: The Promote Your Book Subforum (Name being determined) is on the brink of launch. We're working on the description and the exact right location as we type.

GeoffC · 06-24-2010, 11:23 AM

waiting with bated breath !!!!. ....

Dr. Drib · 06-25-2010, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeoffC

waiting with bated breath !!!!. ....

OT:

Have you been eating too much garlic, again?

Don

Iphinome · 06-25-2010, 08:47 AM

well I hope the subforum happens soon, I almost can't believe I went off on that guy shilling his book, it usually takes copyright talk to get me riled up like that.

Worldwalker · 06-25-2010, 10:59 AM

I hope you go with the "Book Fair" name, even though it wasn't my idea originally. I think it perfectly captures the concept of a place to hype your new book.

Would book discount offers go there or stay in Deals? If Deals isn't going to be split into devices/stores/books, I'd vote for all book posts (discounted or otherwise) going into Book Fair, or we'll wind up with two of each. And they're swamping the device (which I don't much care about) and store (which I very much do) posts in Deals. It's inevitable, since there are so many more ebooks on the market than there are either ebook readers or ebookstores.

omk3 · 06-25-2010, 11:14 AM

I like the name Book Fair too.
I think it would be best for the Deals section to only be for devices and accessories, or store-wide offers.
That would make it easier for the people looking for offers. When I'm in the market for a device, a book offer just gets in the way, and vice versa.
Threads in the book fair could be bumped if there's an offer, or even new threads created.

Ea · 06-25-2010, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pshrynk

Just because it has not been explicitly stated: The Promote Your Book Subforum (Name being determined) is on the brink of launch. We're working on the description and the exact right location as we type.

Whoo!! That's great

:

GeoffC · 06-25-2010, 12:23 PM

Book Bazaar ?

pshrynk · 06-25-2010, 04:07 PM

Bizarre Books?

Probably not.

This weekend is looking good for launch. We'll start moving threads as soon as it's open.

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06-23-2010, 11:11 PM	#106
Worldwalker Curmudgeon Posts: 3,085 Karma: 722357 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: PRS-505	That's why I've been pushing so annoyingly* hard for the "Book Fair" forum: it would be like a giant "Endless Plug Your Novel" thread -- except much more useful. I'll admit, I've never actually dug through that thread; the size is just too intimidating. I'd much prefer a forum where I could browse the post titles (please please pleasepleaseplease with genre tags!) and pick out the specific books that interested me. *if I'm too annoying about it, tell me!

06-24-2010, 06:03 AM	#109
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,599 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	There are too many new members who join and post once or twice, solely in order to plug their wares. Perhaps this ought to be monitored in a way that if a member does not post further within (say) 3 months, their membership is cancelled....

06-24-2010, 06:08 AM	#110
omk3 Wizard Posts: 1,454 Karma: 37243 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Europe Device: pocketbook 360, kindle 4	Dr Drib, the shamelessly plug your novel thread was a good idea and is generally fun, though I'm not sure it attracts people who are only interested in plugging their book as opposed to generally participating in the forum. It is also not very useful to readers, because, as Worldwalker said, its size is intimidating. I really don't want to plough through hundreds of posts to find that one book that I remember vaguely sounded interesting. The Book Fair, and a more specific rule for signatures, sound like the best solutions to me, that will help both readers and writers accomplish their goals.

06-24-2010, 09:26 AM	#112
pshrynk Beepbeep n beebeep, yeah! Posts: 11,726 Karma: 8255450 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin, aka America's IceBox Device: iThingie, KmkII, I miss Zelda!	Just because it has not been explicitly stated: The Promote Your Book Subforum (Name being determined) is on the brink of launch. We're working on the description and the exact right location as we type.

06-24-2010, 11:23 AM	#113
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,599 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	waiting with bated breath !!!!. ....

06-25-2010, 08:47 AM	#115
Iphinome Paladin of Eris Posts: 3,119 Karma: 20849349 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: USAland Device: Kindle 10	well I hope the subforum happens soon, I almost can't believe I went off on that guy shilling his book, it usually takes copyright talk to get me riled up like that.

06-25-2010, 10:59 AM	#116
Worldwalker Curmudgeon Posts: 3,085 Karma: 722357 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: PRS-505	I hope you go with the "Book Fair" name, even though it wasn't my idea originally. I think it perfectly captures the concept of a place to hype your new book. Would book discount offers go there or stay in Deals? If Deals isn't going to be split into devices/stores/books, I'd vote for all book posts (discounted or otherwise) going into Book Fair, or we'll wind up with two of each. And they're swamping the device (which I don't much care about) and store (which I very much do) posts in Deals. It's inevitable, since there are so many more ebooks on the market than there are either ebook readers or ebookstores.

06-25-2010, 11:14 AM	#117
omk3 Wizard Posts: 1,454 Karma: 37243 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Europe Device: pocketbook 360, kindle 4	I like the name Book Fair too. I think it would be best for the Deals section to only be for devices and accessories, or store-wide offers. That would make it easier for the people looking for offers. When I'm in the market for a device, a book offer just gets in the way, and vice versa. Threads in the book fair could be bumped if there's an offer, or even new threads created.

06-25-2010, 12:23 PM	#119
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,599 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	Book Bazaar ?

06-25-2010, 04:07 PM	#120
pshrynk Beepbeep n beebeep, yeah! Posts: 11,726 Karma: 8255450 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin, aka America's IceBox Device: iThingie, KmkII, I miss Zelda!	Bizarre Books? Probably not. This weekend is looking good for launch. We'll start moving threads as soon as it's open.

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