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Old 03-15-2010, 06:21 PM   #106
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My reading preferences tend to be about the content rather than the device.

Once I begin reading I'm perfectly happy with a printed book, a hand-written letter, an E-ink reader, iTouch, netbook or whatever I have to hand at the time. They're all fine in their own way.

In my book, the device or method is secondary. It's really all about the words....
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I don't see an ebook reader listed on your info. Do you just read on a PC screen? There's a vast difference in reading there vs reading on a Kindle or Sony.
...or an Iliad.

Yet, I'm gonna go with Steven on this one. Pbooks are still my preference. An iPad may or may not change that - I'll have to wait and see.

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...or an Iliad.

Yet, I'm gonna go with Steven on this one. Pbooks are still my preference. An iPad may or may not change that - I'll have to wait and see.

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I can't wait to hear your report on the iPad. I want one so bad I can taste it, and was even thinking of using my tax refund to buy one, but I know in my heart that we have other priorities at this time. I don't think I'd prefer it for reading (it's too heavy and has a back-lit screen), but it looks like it would be ideal for writing.
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but it looks like it would be ideal for writing.
Really? Do you write with your finger much?

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Really? Do you write with your finger much?

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Huh?

Writing with your finger(s) seems pretty popular these days.

As far as I can tell, the iPad 'keyboard' appears to be roomy enough to allow you to use whatever your preferred number of digits usually is - starting from hunt and peck with one or two fingers and going on upwards.

There's a pic somewhere here (still working out the best way to show it...) of somebody who looks keen to use the full set of fingers. It looks feasible to me, but then I'm not too fussy. I've gone from writing on manual typewriters through to a variety of computer keyboards, plus texting on mobile phones whose input methods ranged from grindingly awful to surprisingly quick and easy. I'm pretty much equally scruffy on all of them...




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I can't wait to hear your report on the iPad. I want one so bad I can taste it, and was even thinking of using my tax refund to buy one, but I know in my heart that we have other priorities at this time. I don't think I'd prefer it for reading (it's too heavy and has a back-lit screen), but it looks like it would be ideal for writing.
I don't think the weight would be much of a problem for me - it's quoted at around 680 grams, whereas the regular hardback book that I'm currently reading (Bill Bryson's A Short History of Nearly Everything) weighs well over 800gms and that's not bothering me. In fact, some of my books weigh as much as 5kgs.

I also actually like backlit screens. So, like you, I may well crack some time this year and get an iPad. I probably wouldn't get it solely as a book reader, but it has other features that I like too. There are a few restrictions that I'd prefer weren't there, but that seems to apply to pretty much any device and I've been able to work around things, or live with it, with my other gadgets.

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In fact, some of my books weigh as much as 5kgs.
I guess I don't need to ask if you ever read in public transports
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No, and I don't try balancing them on the handlebars of the bike any more either. Plus, the broomstick just doesn't have the horsepower to take off with the extra cargo now....

I'm not normally a book weighing kind of guy, but all the talk on this forum about the specs and pros and cons of various rival devices prompted me to go back and try and impartially review the experience of reading 'real' books.

It was really quite interesting. There were quite a few unexpected things, apart from the weight issue. (BTW the two hefty ones that I weighed were a big 'Coffee Table' style volume about Leonardo da Vinci, and a Compact Oxford English Dictionary which is only "compact" in the sense that they cram all 20 volumes into one single book by using miniaturized type and supplying a magnifier ).

Other aspects that I hadn't really noticed much before, because I was so used to it, were things like the sometimes awkward curvature of the pages, especially the nearer you get to the beginning or end of the book. Also the need to use two hands to hold most paperbacks firmly open if they're to be discouraged from suddenly closing on you or sneakily skipping a chunk of pages if your grip slackens off...

It really seems to boil down to whether you prefer grappling with book goblins or electronics gremlins. They're all prone to misbehave if you don't keep your guard up.....
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Really? Do you write with your finger much?

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No, but the idea of combining that virtual keyboard with the Pages app ($9.99) sounds mighty sweet. According to the Apple website, not only does Pages allow you to create professional looking documents complete with graphics, but you can also import and edit Word docs and PDFs. And in the pictures, at least, that keyboard looks plenty big, especially when the device is held so it displays in landscape mode.

Right now, I can't afford one, which is probably just as well. I want to see how they perform in the real world before I commit to buying one.
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As far as I can tell, the iPad 'keyboard' appears to be roomy enough to allow you to use whatever your preferred number of digits usually is - starting from hunt and peck with one or two fingers and going on upwards.

There's a pic somewhere here (still working out the best way to show it...)
Actually when someone said "writing" I was thinking hand writing.

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And in the pictures, at least, that keyboard looks plenty big, especially when the device is held so it displays in landscape mode.
Have you ever seen pictures of Cruise boat cabins... they "look" enormous.

I really think they use models with girly hands on those vids/pics. I've gotta say.... I think for a short note or email it would be ok... but for working on a long document it would be too small. Give me a full size keyboard anyday.

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Meezzah lahkss boookz becoz meezza lahkss peektchahzz!!!

Anything that can bring me inside my reading bubble is adequate. My reader does it and so does paper. But content is king.

When a paper books is well crafted, it points to the moods the writer wishes me to find in his stories. A competent publishig house will help an author a long way to achieve this, with artwork, choicy exerpts, additional information and a gorgeous layout. This is something not as likely to be found as satifying in most current ebook yet.

I spent the last weekend in hospital. My wife brought me a paper novel and my Sony. Although I started with the Sony, I quickly went to the paper book. The dim lighting in hospitals is not appropriate for eink. And when you're drowning in pain, carried by morphine, you easily go for the more practical; at that time paper was. Paper is less at a risk of being stolen too because most people hate reading but they do love their gadgetlust...

I can give a gazillion reasons for preferring each side over the other but it all comes down to finding my reading bubble, and staying in it...
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I spent the last weekend in hospital. My wife brought me a paper novel and my Sony. Although I started with the Sony, I quickly went to the paper book. The dim lighting in hospitals is not appropriate for eink. And when you're drowning in pain, carried by morphine, you easily go for the more practical; at that time paper was. Paper is less at a risk of being stolen too because most people hate reading but they do love their gadgetlust...
Which is why 90% of my reading is done on a backlit device. I generally read in darker areas, almost never in well-lit areas. And the e-ink works perfectly in well-lit areas, but not that well in dimmer lit areas.
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... Have you ever seen pictures of Cruise boat cabins... they "look" enormous.

I really think they use models with girly hands on those vids/pics. I've gotta say.... I think for a short note or email it would be ok... but for working on a long document it would be too small. Give me a full size keyboard anyday.

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That's why I'm glad they have an Apple Store in our area. Before I ever bought a device like that, I'd like to try it out. At worst, I can't imagine it being any more difficult to use than the Kindle keyboard.

Well, actually, I can. I also own a Nook.
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At worst, I can't imagine it being any more difficult to use than the Kindle keyboard.
That's probably true. However, I don't think many (I don't) use the Kindle keyboard to write documents. I just use it to enter a search term, or url, or small annotation/note every now and then.

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Which is why 90% of my reading is done on a backlit device. I generally read in darker areas, almost never in well-lit areas. And the e-ink works perfectly in well-lit areas, but not that well in dimmer lit areas.
Me too, mostly. This is why I'll get an iPad as soon as it's available in Canada...

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