The Grand Experiment!

[daffy4u]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I would say nothing is wrong. LRF is a pig when it comes to embedded fonts. It's just slow. ePub is fine for embedding fonts as it's nice and fast. But LRF (with embedded fonts) just bogs down and makes reading not so nice.

So why do some prefer LRF over ePub as stated earlier in this thread?

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by daffy4u

I DID IT! A missing space was the culprit.

I had "body{" instead of "body {". Thanks all!

Well spotted and fixed.

That is one thing I really like.. To be able to specify the font I want to use. I'll have to give Gentium a try sometime.

Oh and as for the body CSS style, I also do the following...

body {
  font-family: "Fontin", serif;
  widows: 0;
  orphans: 0
}

That turns off the windows and orphans. I prefer having most pages end the same. Give it a try and see what you think.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by daffy4u

So why do some prefer LRF over ePub as stated earlier in this thread?

LRF supports full justification, which the current ePub implementation on Sony devices other than the PRS-900 does not. Many people prefer full justification to a ragged right margin.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by daffy4u

So why do some prefer LRF over ePub as stated earlier in this thread?

Some prefer LRF because they don't like the right justification of ePub on the 505. LRF is full justified.

I'm thinking that if Sony goes with the new ADE (aka B&N) then we'll get a new ADE for the 505 with full justification.

[daffy4u]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Well spotted and fixed.

That is one thing I really like.. To be able to specify the font i want to use.

Now that it's set up, I find I like it a lot as well. I don't find myself with the desire to swap fonts often if ever. Since I don't speak any other languages, I think I'm comfortable sticking with Fontin wherever possible.

Though K2 and the 505 can be hacked with new fonts, I like that *I* can chose the font from a wider range and the base size myself, so the 505 is better in this respect.

[daffy4u]

While reading Under the Dome, the K2 was justified and the 505 with ePub was not. I was good with both of them. I don't seem to have a preference.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by daffy4u

So why do some prefer LRF over ePub as stated earlier in this thread?

I don't know either. Some people (not me!) like the raggedy-spaced full-justification the the lrf has some fonts and features that some like better than epub. I don't really care how it looks as long as it is reasonable and readable.

And epub is standardized across platforms pretty well.

[JSWolf]

Here is the link to download the Gentium fonts.

http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/p...=Gentium_basic

[daffy4u]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Here is the link to download the Gentium fonts.

http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/p...=Gentium_basic

I have them already. It's very math and science-y looking.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by kennyc

I don't know either. Some people (not me!) like the raggedy-spaced full-justification the the lrf has some fonts and features that some like better than epub. I don't really care how it looks as long as it is reasonable and readable.

And epub is standardized across platforms pretty well.

What I've found is that I am able to get more text on a page in ePub then I am in LRF. That is clearly easily readable (for me) text. And I have gotten used to the right justification of ePub. I do like having true font styles such as italics and bold.

[astra]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I would say nothing is wrong. LRF is a pig when it comes to embedded fonts. It's just slow. ePub is fine for embedding fonts as it's nice and fast. But LRF (with embedded fonts) just bogs down and makes reading not so nice.

I am not sure you tell the full picture.

Correctly me if I am wrong but:

For ePub to be fast with embedded fonts, you must customise the reader. It would not work right out of box with a font of your choice. Basically the same as with LRF.
Where is the difference?

[astra]

Originally Posted by daffy4u

So why do some prefer LRF over ePub as stated earlier in this thread?

1. LRF is blinding fast on PRS-505 vs. ePub.

2. LRF is fully justified vs. ragged edges in ePub.

I like using BD for creating LRFs. No coding knowledge is required. I think Sigil is almost there for ePub but then ePub is too slow (opening TOC, changing font size) on my 505 so there is no point.

[ShellShock]

Originally Posted by astra

1. LRF is blinding fast on PRS-505 vs. ePub.

2. LRF is fully justified vs. ragged edges in ePub.

I like using BD for creating LRFs. No coding knowledge is required. I think Sigil is almost there for ePub but then ePub is too slow (opening TOC, changing font size) on my 505 so there is no point.

3. On the PRS-505 ePub displays small page numbers in the right hand margin; personally I find these rather annoying, especially as I use very small margins (to maximise wordage), and the page numbers often overlap with the text that I am trying to read.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by astra

I am not sure you tell the full picture.

Correctly me if I am wrong but:

For ePub to be fast with embedded fonts, you must customise the reader. It would not work right out of box with a font of your choice. Basically the same as with LRF.
Where is the difference?

You embed the font in the ePub by either having the fonts in the ePub fule itself or in fonts off of the root and have the CSS point to it to use. You do not have to customize any part of the 505 to do this.

LRF is rather slow when you embed fonts. So if you want to change the font of an LRF, you have two choices, change the system font (long arduous process) or embed which makes the LRF too slow to enjoy reading.

Now the ePub with an embedded font is just fine. And you can get true italics, true bold, and anything else you can do with a font as well as have multiple fonts all over the page very easily.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by astra

1. LRF is blinding fast on PRS-505 vs. ePub.

2. LRF is fully justified vs. ragged edges in ePub.

I like using BD for creating LRFs. No coding knowledge is required. I think Sigil is almost there for ePub but then ePub is too slow (opening TOC, changing font size) on my 505 so there is no point.

1. I disagree

2. This is true. But there is always hope that Sony will update ADE in the 500, 505, 300, 700, & 600 since ADE in the 900 is of newer design.

Actually, going to the external ToC is quite fast. The original problem was something created by Calibre whihc as now been fixed. However, if you are using Reader Library or Calibre to move LRF to a 505, then opening the LRF (the first time) will be slow as the 505 has to paginate it. Then if you want to change the text size from there, it's again the need for pagination. Change the text size yet again and another pagination is in order.

According to others, using Reader Library causes the pagination already done with LRF to be lost. So it will once again be slow as it repaginates all over again.

Now, if you use eBook Library to manage content, then the pagination will be done for you and stay done. But then you lose access to the Sony eBookstore.

This is yet one more thing. Because embedding a font in ePub is easy to do, it gives me a better reading experience as I can use the font of my choice (usually Fontin). And because Fontin is an easier to read font, I can get more text per page with ePub then LRF.