Declaration of Independence - Page 8

DaleDe · 08-15-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Fanas

Well why else would I need kindle. Wireless wikipedia access is the only advantage of kindle, otherwise it sucks. If I ever have a chance to get such an amazing feature I will get it, no questions asked. You have no idea how often I need wikipedia, but don't have internet access.
http://xkcd.com/548/

Well I can't speak to your needs of course, but some buy it for the eBook selection and many like the dictionary, keyboard search and other features of the product. Some own Kindles and never use the wireless feature.

dale

Fanas · 08-15-2009, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaleDe

Well I can't speak to your needs of course, but some buy it for the eBook selection and many like the dictionary, keyboard search and other features of the product. Some own Kindles and never use the wireless feature.

dale

Well I'm waiting for PRS-600, it will have all of it, except for wireless.

I am just not sure if I should buy it now, if there's some nice reader with wireless coming soon, then it would be way better.

pking36330 · 08-15-2009, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaan

Oh, please ...

Exactly the point. Quit whining and making pitiful excuses to justify illegal actions. If you are going to engage in illegal activity, just do it. But don't try to pass off your pathetic excuses in a public forum to try and find the few other morally bankrupt people who agree in order to take the edge off your guilt.

Fanas · 08-15-2009, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pking36330

Exactly the point. Quit whining and making pitiful excuses to justify illegal actions. If you are going to engage in illegal activity, just do it. But don't try to pass off your pathetic excuses in a public forum to try and find the few other morally bankrupt people who agree in order to take the edge off your guilt.

What in my posts suggested that I feel guilt? Because I don't.

pshrynk · 08-15-2009, 11:46 AM

Let's try to keep the name calling out of the discussion, please.

astrodad · 08-15-2009, 12:29 PM

I would like to see a survey of consumers-who-turn-into-producers who answer the same question on their view of copyright laws. Would their view be different now that they are the victims of piracy? I used to download warez software until I became an ISV. Now, after wearing the other show, I only use open source software or I purchase it.

forcheville · 08-15-2009, 06:53 PM

I'm late to this thread, but basically agree with all the original points.

Hat's off to the (foolhardy) courage of the original poster. It's not really the sort of line that needs to be public at MobileRead, which aims to be a respectable forum.

While not a writer myself, a good friend of mine who writes academic books which sell reasonably well, is also very relieved to see some of his work pirated at a certain site. As, he sees it, it means they're more likely to be read and cited by the grad student and junior faculty community, and keep his reputation high. I don't find this cynical, merely a rational response to the skill market in which he finds himself.

kazbates · 08-15-2009, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pshrynk

Well, if you buy a plan for a piece of furniture from, say, Wood Magazine, it says quite clearly that you have the right to build the furniture for your own use or to give away, but not to sell it.

I had not thought of that and I should have. A lot of the crafting magazines that I have subscribed to over the years have placed the same restriction on the project instructions they provide. I guess that could be called Sales Restriction Management or SRM.

benham · 08-16-2009, 11:16 AM

I haven't read all these posts but have a general idea. We don't get service where we live in th USA either so Kindle wouldn't help. But why not a Sony? Even with Kindle you can download books from your PC can't you?

From the for watit is worth department;
I do not really understand why there is a restriction on where the devices can be sold.
I DO NOT agree with illegally downloading books. What is the difference between thatand stealing the book out of Barnes & Noble?

pshrynk · 08-16-2009, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benham

I haven't read all these posts but have a general idea. We don't get service where we live in th USA either so Kindle wouldn't help. But why not a Sony? Even with Kindle you can download books from your PC can't you?

From the for watit is worth department;
I do not really understand why there is a restriction on where the devices can be sold.
I DO NOT agree with illegally downloading books. What is the difference between thatand stealing the book out of Barnes & Noble?

Where in Milwaukee do you not get service?

benham · 08-16-2009, 11:26 AM

Oh,we don't live in Milw anymore. We moved to our cabin in Northern Wi.

pshrynk · 08-16-2009, 11:29 AM

Ah. Obvioulsy, I can understand the lack of wireless up there. Hell, there is an average population per county of something like, five, up there, isn't there?

benham · 08-16-2009, 11:31 AM

Depends on if you count the bears.

kazbates · 08-16-2009, 11:33 AM

Do you all who live in northern Wisconsin get called Yuppers like the people who live in the upper peninsula of Michigan?!?!

pshrynk · 08-16-2009, 11:37 AM

No, but people from Chicago get called FISHTABs all the time.

(F*** Idiot with a Summer Home, Towing A Boat)

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08-15-2009, 11:46 AM	#110
pshrynk Beepbeep n beebeep, yeah! Posts: 11,726 Karma: 8255450 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin, aka America's IceBox Device: iThingie, KmkII, I miss Zelda!	Let's try to keep the name calling out of the discussion, please.

08-15-2009, 12:29 PM	#111
astrodad Guru Posts: 962 Karma: 568242 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: Kindle Oasis 3, Kindle Paperwhite 1, iPad, iPhone	I would like to see a survey of consumers-who-turn-into-producers who answer the same question on their view of copyright laws. Would their view be different now that they are the victims of piracy? I used to download warez software until I became an ISV. Now, after wearing the other show, I only use open source software or I purchase it.

08-15-2009, 06:53 PM	#112
forcheville Zealot Posts: 104 Karma: 672100 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Device: Sony prs650, Boox M92, Samsung Slate 7	I'm late to this thread, but basically agree with all the original points. Hat's off to the (foolhardy) courage of the original poster. It's not really the sort of line that needs to be public at MobileRead, which aims to be a respectable forum. While not a writer myself, a good friend of mine who writes academic books which sell reasonably well, is also very relieved to see some of his work pirated at a certain site. As, he sees it, it means they're more likely to be read and cited by the grad student and junior faculty community, and keep his reputation high. I don't find this cynical, merely a rational response to the skill market in which he finds himself.

08-16-2009, 11:16 AM	#114
benham Guru Posts: 882 Karma: 5565888 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Townsend, WI Device: Palm TX, PRS-505 (BLUE)	I haven't read all these posts but have a general idea. We don't get service where we live in th USA either so Kindle wouldn't help. But why not a Sony? Even with Kindle you can download books from your PC can't you? From the for watit is worth department; I do not really understand why there is a restriction on where the devices can be sold. I DO NOT agree with illegally downloading books. What is the difference between thatand stealing the book out of Barnes & Noble?

08-16-2009, 11:26 AM	#116
benham Guru Posts: 882 Karma: 5565888 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Townsend, WI Device: Palm TX, PRS-505 (BLUE)	Oh,we don't live in Milw anymore. We moved to our cabin in Northern Wi.

08-16-2009, 11:29 AM	#117
pshrynk Beepbeep n beebeep, yeah! Posts: 11,726 Karma: 8255450 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin, aka America's IceBox Device: iThingie, KmkII, I miss Zelda!	Ah. Obvioulsy, I can understand the lack of wireless up there. Hell, there is an average population per county of something like, five, up there, isn't there?

08-16-2009, 11:31 AM	#118
benham Guru Posts: 882 Karma: 5565888 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Townsend, WI Device: Palm TX, PRS-505 (BLUE)	Depends on if you count the bears.

08-16-2009, 11:33 AM	#119
kazbates Wizard Posts: 2,627 Karma: 406616 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Northern Virginia Device: SurfacePro, SurfaceBook 2	Do you all who live in northern Wisconsin get called Yuppers like the people who live in the upper peninsula of Michigan?!?!

08-16-2009, 11:37 AM	#120
pshrynk Beepbeep n beebeep, yeah! Posts: 11,726 Karma: 8255450 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin, aka America's IceBox Device: iThingie, KmkII, I miss Zelda!	No, but people from Chicago get called FISHTABs all the time. (F*** Idiot with a Summer Home, Towing A Boat)

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