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Old 08-12-2009, 12:20 PM   #106
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Old 08-12-2009, 12:23 PM   #107
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The chart is not accurate. And they don't even compare Sony & Amazon models that are actually available for sale. That's even more deceptive.
Other than the color, which part is not accurate for the Sony 500? You've already remarked on the adapter/accessory -- anything else?
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Old 08-12-2009, 12:37 PM   #108
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if Ectaco updated the chart and made it accurate, the Jetbook would not come out on top. That's why i think they won't update the chart.
please see the thread as we discussed that the chart may have been created while the jetBook was still in development.
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Old 08-12-2009, 12:39 PM   #109
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Another shady practice is selling the Jetbook in a mainstream store without mentioning the fact that is does not handle any eBooks with DRM. This means that people who purchase it thinking they can read some of the latest NYT bestsellers, they will find they cannot the hard way. Bed, Bath & Beyond is not a shop techies shop for electronics. So most likely it will be Mom & Pop shoppers who see the Jetbook and think it might be a nice thing to have. Boy will they be wrong.
its a broken record with you on behalf of this, but as many people have stated before, not everyone solely read DRM books.
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I can easily see the following happening....

Person is at BBB and sees the Jetbook. The info says it handles a number of formats and the person thinks, that sounds good. I'll be able to get eBooks from my friend who has a Sony and read his ePub eBooks on my new Jetbook. I'll also be able to get eBooks from my favorite authors. Purchase the Jetbook, and then find out that the ePub his friend has are all with DRm and won't work. Find out the eBooks from his favorite author have DRM and won't work. Take the Jetbook back to BBB disgusted at BBB for not mentioning the limitations of the Jetbook.

Now if someone goes to say Newegg.com to purchase a Jetbook, the chances are quite good that the person will know about DRM and that the Jetbook does not support any DRM and won't have an issue with that.

So really, BBB is not the right sort of place to sell the Jetbook.
the formats that are supported are listed on the back of the box and on the website, i thought you knew that since you own one jon?
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The 500 never came in anything other than black.



The power adapter is not an accessory for the 500, it is for the 505.

A lot of the other things Ectaco says can be for the 500 or the 505. Not all is applicable to the 505. But then again, I do think Ectaco got their facts wrong in some cases.



And saying they have unlimited titles available for the Jetbook is plain out and out BS. The way Ectaco compares the Jetbook to the 500 and/or 505 & K1 is just plain poor and whoever wrote the chart and approved it should have been fired.
if you really want to get technical about it the titles really are unlimited.

especially in terms of language. i read Russian and Spanish books on this device like it's my job.

do you know of any other device that supports Spanish, German, Russian, Polish, etc. texts?
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The chart is not accurate. And they don't even compare Sony & Amazon models that are actually available for sale. That's even more deceptive.
do you read the posts or do you skip to your ideas/assumptions?

we already discussed how the chart could have been made before the jetBook's release.

mind you the K2 and the DX weren't even out when the jetBook was released.
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Old 08-12-2009, 01:03 PM   #113
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do you read the posts or do you skip to your ideas/assumptions?

we already discussed how the chart could have been made before the jetBook's release.

mind you the K2 and the DX weren't even out when the jetBook was released.
Calm down, it's not worth fighting over! I think there's enough information in this thread for anyone to make up their mind one way or the other. Aside from the marketing bias, I am just curious on what technical specs are inaccurate. So far it seems like the Sony color, unless there's another one I've missed.

Anyway, I went ahead and added the jetBook to the MR Wiki under 5" devices. Most of the information I used was from the jetBook's entry in the Wiki itself. Please let me know if anything is inaccurate and/or fix it for me! Thanks.
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Old 08-12-2009, 01:05 PM   #114
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Calm down, it's not worth fighting over! I think there's enough information in this thread for anyone to make up their mind one way or the other. Aside from the marketing bias, I am just curious on what technical specs are inaccurate. So far it seems like the Sony color, unless there's another one I've missed.

Anyway, I went ahead and added the jetBook to the MR Wiki under 5" devices. Most of the information I used was from the jetBook's entry in the Wiki itself. Please let me know if anything is inaccurate and/or fix it for me! Thanks.
lol, no worries, its just forums and fun for me

alongside your questions i also wanted to know the history behind Jon and Ectaco so i can figure out why he badmouths them all the time
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lol, no worries, its just forums and fun for me

alongside your questions i also wanted to know the history behind Jon and Ectaco so i can figure out why he badmouths them all the time
I wouldn't assume there's a history, and he's already expressed his reasons (bad chart, misleading "free" book marketing, no DRM support).

Jon, I respect your opinion, although I think you're being a little harsh with Ectaco. Are the entries in the MR Wiki satisfactory to you?
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Other than the color, which part is not accurate for the Sony 500? You've already remarked on the adapter/accessory -- anything else?
see the original Jon's post below
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...6&postcount=30

He read the chart about 500 model but all his comments about 505 model I can't find any explanation for it...

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if you really want to get technical about it the titles really are unlimited.

especially in terms of language. i read Russian and Spanish books on this device like it's my job.

do you know of any other device that supports Spanish, German, Russian, Polish, etc. texts?
The Sonys. I can even read Arabic on mine (in reflowable PDF). The Hanlins are also very famous for their extensive language support. BTW, I'm not against the Jetbook. I came very close to buying one (unfortunately none of the BB&Bs between the Mason Dixon line and North Carolina have them in stock) before placing a preorder for the EZReader Pocket Pro.
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Do not add the Jetbook to the e-INK matrix. There is an LCD matrix with the Jetbook already in it. If you want a matrix that contains an E-INK device and the Jetbook then create a new page. There is a page already comparing the Sony vs Cybook. Perhaps this could be used as a guide but a table is certainly ok as well.
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Do not add the Jetbook to the e-INK matrix. There is an LCD matrix with the Jetbook already in it. If you want a matrix that contains an E-INK device and the Jetbook then create a new page. There is a page already comparing the Sony vs Cybook. Perhaps this could be used as a guide but a table is certainly ok as well.
Ouch, all that time spent for nothing! I wasn't meaning to intrude... the title of the page was "E-book Reader Matrix." I see now that it specifically states "e-ink" readers in the description. In my opinion, it would be fair to compare the jetBook alongside other current e-ink readers. It's an "E-book Reader" like any other.
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CyBook Gen3 displays them just fine. You simply have to install the appropriate fonts on the machine (which I think is the case on the Jetbook, too, isn't it?)
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