Bookeen Opus Announced - Page 8

Soc-psychologist · 07-29-2009, 12:30 PM

Do you think that the Opus will support non-drm mobipocket files? Cool-er does just that, even if it is an ePUB based device.

HarryT · 07-29-2009, 12:47 PM

We already know that it will not.

K-Thom · 07-29-2009, 01:46 PM

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We already know that it will not.

Do you mean "supported by the epub firmware" (which it definitely will not) or do you mean "supported by the (hopefully) upcoming prc firmeware" for the Opus?

I sure do hope that Bookeen won't stick to DRM-prc with the firmware update for both readers!

Soc-psychologist · 07-29-2009, 03:43 PM

To tell the truth I am not too fond of this company's policies regarding the way they make things hard for their customers. Bad service and stupid DRM decisions. I sure hope Interead or some other company will be able to challenge this. If the service continues to be bad I am certain that I will guide my friends to buy some other company's products.

EowynCarter · 07-29-2009, 03:59 PM

Bad DRM decisions ? Amazon makes a mess of it, not bookeen !
And as far as i'm concerned, that solves the question, i'll switch to Epub, bye bye mobi !

Bad service ? They where as effective as can be when I nedded them to be.

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sure do hope that Bookeen won't stick to DRM-prc with the firmware update for both readers!

I hope that too. Maybe that can get resource to code some epub and mobi reader.
but if there is a choice to make, i'll rather have then improving pdf.

yvanleterrible · 07-29-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Bookeen told me yesterday that they should be shipping either today or tomorrow, so, fingers crossed, those of us in Europe should get them by the weekend.

Fingers crossed for you!

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Strangely enough, no, I don't

.

Thanks for the info, anyway.

HarryT · 07-30-2009, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Soc-psychologist

To tell the truth I am not too fond of this company's policies regarding the way they make things hard for their customers. Bad service and stupid DRM decisions. I sure hope Interead or some other company will be able to challenge this. If the service continues to be bad I am certain that I will guide my friends to buy some other company's products.

Bookeen are completely blameless in this. They WANT to be able to offer both ePub and Mobi DRM in the same firmware. Mobi (Amazon) will not allow them to do so. The road they have gone down - offering two different firmware versions, one for ePub and the other for Mobi - is the only practical one at present, unfortunately. Blame Amazon.

Soc-psychologist · 07-30-2009, 03:02 AM

Non DRM mobipocket and epub is present in COOL-ER, are they braking the law?

HarryT · 07-30-2009, 03:05 AM

No, but they are not using Mobipocket's code - Bookeen are. In order to retain the ability to offer users the continued ability to read the Mobipocket books they've bought in the past, they really do have no choice but to offer the Mobi capability in a separate firmware version. They have said that they are trying to negotiate with Mobi to remove this silly restriction.

Sweetpea · 07-30-2009, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

No, but they are not using Mobipocket's code - Bookeen are. In order to retain the ability to offer users the continued ability to read the Mobipocket books they've bought in the past, they really do have no choice but to offer the Mobi capability in a separate firmware version. They have said that they are trying to negotiate with Mobi to remove this silly restriction.

I really hope they'll manage this, but do doubt Amazon will give in...

Soc-psychologist · 07-30-2009, 04:18 AM

I used to order books from amazon with roughly 2000euros a year. Sometimes even more.

Well, when I saw that Amazon refused to deliver Kindle to Europe and especially after realizing how idiotically they've managed this DRM issue I got angry and have stopped all my book purchasings from them. Too bad I can not boycot them further.

With me at least they've lost a good customer. I am pretty sure that when this DRM issue and Kindle idiocity catches fire many more people will start boycotting amazon. Especially when several of the non-fiction and technical books are available for free if one knows where to look.

JSWolf · 07-30-2009, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrraow

I have ordered also. Being able to put it in my pocket when not in use is a big selling point.

And breaking it while in your pocket is a big risk. That is why 6" is better since it doesn't fit well in most pockets.

krischik · 07-30-2009, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Soc-psychologist

Non DRM mobipocket and epub is present in COOL-ER, are they braking the law?

As Harry pointed out: they use there own code which:

can't decode DRM protected books.
Does not have the same display quality - at least so I heard.

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Originally Posted by Soc-psychologist

I got angry and have stopped all my book purchasings from them. Too bad I can not boycot them further.

Me too. And if you look at "A message to the new Amazon Overlords" 40% of (ex-)Mobipocket customers think the same.

Martin

JSWolf · 07-30-2009, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

What bookstores sell FB2 books? Come to that, what book creation tools create FB2 books? It's a format that I've never come across in the "real world", I have to admit.

Book Designer and Calibre can both generate FB2.

HarryT · 07-30-2009, 04:44 AM

Thank you, Jon; I had overlooked that.

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07-29-2009, 12:30 PM	#106
Soc-psychologist Member Posts: 22 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Helsinki, Europe Device: Cybook Gen 3, Cybook Opus, N91	Do you think that the Opus will support non-drm mobipocket files? Cool-er does just that, even if it is an ePUB based device.

07-29-2009, 12:47 PM	#107
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	We already know that it will not.

07-29-2009, 03:43 PM	#109
Soc-psychologist Member Posts: 22 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Helsinki, Europe Device: Cybook Gen 3, Cybook Opus, N91	To tell the truth I am not too fond of this company's policies regarding the way they make things hard for their customers. Bad service and stupid DRM decisions. I sure hope Interead or some other company will be able to challenge this. If the service continues to be bad I am certain that I will guide my friends to buy some other company's products.

07-30-2009, 03:02 AM	#113
Soc-psychologist Member Posts: 22 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Helsinki, Europe Device: Cybook Gen 3, Cybook Opus, N91	Non DRM mobipocket and epub is present in COOL-ER, are they braking the law?

07-30-2009, 03:05 AM	#114
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	No, but they are not using Mobipocket's code - Bookeen are. In order to retain the ability to offer users the continued ability to read the Mobipocket books they've bought in the past, they really do have no choice but to offer the Mobi capability in a separate firmware version. They have said that they are trying to negotiate with Mobi to remove this silly restriction.

07-30-2009, 04:18 AM	#116
Soc-psychologist Member Posts: 22 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Helsinki, Europe Device: Cybook Gen 3, Cybook Opus, N91	I used to order books from amazon with roughly 2000euros a year. Sometimes even more. Well, when I saw that Amazon refused to deliver Kindle to Europe and especially after realizing how idiotically they've managed this DRM issue I got angry and have stopped all my book purchasings from them. Too bad I can not boycot them further. With me at least they've lost a good customer. I am pretty sure that when this DRM issue and Kindle idiocity catches fire many more people will start boycotting amazon. Especially when several of the non-fiction and technical books are available for free if one knows where to look.

07-30-2009, 04:44 AM	#120
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Thank you, Jon; I had overlooked that.

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