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Old 10-05-2021, 07:58 AM   #106
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So, a little off-topic, but related, Kobo just announced their Kobo Sage 8 inch ereader with stylus for note-taking. The battery spec is lacking, and they introduced a new "power" cover with built-in supplemental battery that attaches magnetically. Not exactly the same, but it is reminiscent of the Oasis 1.
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Old 10-05-2021, 08:00 AM   #107
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I just dug out my Paperwhite 4. Inside a book, touch the three dots on the upper right and Disable Touchscreen is in the drop down menu. My Paperwhite is on version 5.13.6.
Great! Then that feature my be on the new Paperwhites.

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But... *you yourself* just said that the point of the Oasis was that it's lightweight, and that making the Oasis 2 less lightweight proved it was a failure! I don't entirely agree, but... apparently your own words don't count when you can make a different point that requires you to argue in the opposite direction.
No I did not say that.

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But... the Oasis 2 and 3 are much heavier with either of their cases on than the Oasis 1 is with it off (heavy enough that I only read my Oasis 3 with the case on when I absolutely must), yet you just said the weight of the case is unimportant?! You can't have it both ways. You certainly can't have it both ways in the same post.
You cannot compare the Oasis 1 out of it's case to the Oasis 2 & 3 because the Oasis 1 case has a battery in it because of the terrible design of the Oasis 1.
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So, a little off-topic, but related, Kobo just announced their Kobo Sage 8 inch ereader with stylus for note-taking. The battery spec is lacking, and they introduced a new "power" cover with built-in supplemental battery that attaches magnetically. Not exactly the same, but it is reminiscent of the Oasis 1.
Not the same as the Oasis 1. This is equivalent of a power bank used to charge your phone.
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Old 10-05-2021, 10:33 AM   #110
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So, a little off-topic, but related, Kobo just announced their Kobo Sage 8 inch ereader with stylus for note-taking. ...
Note that the stylus cost extra.
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Old 10-05-2021, 12:05 PM   #111
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Not the same as the Oasis 1. This is equivalent of a power bank used to charge your phone.

I didn’t say it was the same, if you actually read my last sentence.

Please ignore my messages moving forward. I clearly am not capable of adding anything of value to these discussions without offending your all-encompassing knowledge.
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Old 10-05-2021, 12:23 PM   #112
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Not the same as the Oasis 1. This is equivalent of a power bank used to charge your phone.
This from the guy who said the Amazon PW5 was a clone of the Kobo Aura H2O.
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Old 10-05-2021, 03:02 PM   #113
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Note that the stylus cost extra.
Which is a smart move, imo. Those who want a smaller note-taker than the Elipsa can have one (presumably for less than an Elipsa costs) while those who don't are not forced to pay more for unwanted functionality
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Old 10-05-2021, 03:10 PM   #114
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Which is a smart move, imo. Those who want a smaller note-taker than the Elipsa can have one (presumably for less than an Elipsa costs) while those who don't are not forced to pay more for unwanted functionality
A very smart move, seeing as I don't want a pen.
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Which is a smart move, imo. Those who want a smaller note-taker than the Elipsa can have one (presumably for less than an Elipsa costs) while those who don't are not forced to pay more for unwanted functionality
Except that 32gb and Bluetooth are unwanted functionality by me, also. I take your point, but I suspect that the rationale in large part is that not including the stylus means the quoted retail price can be lower. Kinda of like Amazon and its ad-supported Kindles. If they could include the stylus for a trivial addition to the cost, I’m sure they would (and use it as a selling point).
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Not the same as the Oasis 1. This is equivalent of a power bank used to charge your phone.
So... exactly like the Oasis 1, then, except that it might have a built-in battery that's a bit larger so that you don't have to charge it every six hours or so?
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Except that 32gb and Bluetooth are unwanted functionality by me, also. I take your point, but I suspect that the rationale in large part is that not including the stylus means the quoted retail price can be lower. Kinda of like Amazon and its ad-supported Kindles. If they could include the stylus for a trivial addition to the cost, I’m sure they would (and use it as a selling point).
Given how much Kobo charges for its covers versus 3rd party covers, I'm more inclined to think they're imitating Apple's historically very successful marketing philosophy of selling as many separate accessories as possible, each with its own eye-watering markup. Why include a $5 stylus for an extra $15 in the "package" price when you can sell it as a 'must-have' add on for $50?
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Given how much Kobo charges for its covers versus 3rd party covers, I'm more inclined to think they're imitating Apple's historically very successful marketing philosophy of selling as many separate accessories as possible, each with its own eye-watering markup. Why include a $5 stylus for an extra $15 in the "package" price when you can sell it as a 'must-have' add on for $50?
Kobo’s cover strategy apes that of Amazon. Eye-popping and jaw-dropping prices on OEM covers from both. I won’t pay more than $10 for a cover, period. It’s insane to pay a cover price that can approach 50% of the price (at least that I, who waits on a discount) paid for a device.
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Kobo’s cover strategy apes that of Amazon. Eye-popping and jaw-dropping prices on OEM covers from both. I won’t pay more than $10 for a cover, period. It’s insane to pay a cover price that can approach 50% of the price (at least that I, who waits on a discount) paid for a device.
I agree. While it might be nice to get the charging cover with the Sage, not for that price. Unless I win a lottery.
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