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The one copy vs multiple copy thing is an issue if there are lots of multiple copies. But if I lend my paperback to my friend or my spare Kindle with the same book on it I'm reading on my Kindle the author/publisher isn't affected by the difference. That's an issue in name only.
Lending my spare Kindle with the book on it means we might both read the book at the same time. Or not. Either way we both read the same book. If it's paper we're just inconvenienced a little more. The publisher gains nothing from our inconvenience. The real solution to all this in the long run is for publishers/sellers/authors to assume people are honest, which we mostly are, and leave them alone. Then when there is a problem they can deal with it. That's where law is effective. The various systems in place now just don't work and cause a lot of problems, both for us users and for the publishers and book sellers. Barry |
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I think most of the moral and ethical issues arise because people try to force analogies that don't work.
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I have now encountered the "too many activations" 'error' msg when trying to add the Adobe DRM id to the Aldiko app so I can download an ebook from the public library. Googling, I find the problem was in a thread at Adobe's 'community forum' starting around 2010 & looks to be still occurring. DRM should not have a limit to how many activations were made if it was legitimate; none of DRM business on how many times a person install/uninstalls an app. I do not remember where, but did see a reference to Overdrive using "anonymous" as an id which appears to be without limits. Another reason for getting rid for DRM. |
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I consider this like time shifting with VCRs. Of course, if you keep the book, or give it to someone else, that is a different story. But if I have 5 books that come off the waiting list at once, I don't consider taking more than 21 days to read them to be unethical or immoral.
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It's simply wrong to call it either "malware" or a "virus"; it's neither. Even if you are against the principle of DRM, you're doing your cause no favours by using such inaccurate terms to describe it.
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DRM is a virus as it is also infects the physical device since it renders the tablet unable to use a paid app for its functions. |
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I'm sorry, but this is abject nonsense.
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The "Too many activations' is normally resolved via contact with Adobe support.
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Did read that Adobe tech "support" claims that the problem is the publisher or device maker as they dictate what is the "limit". And that if software app is uninstalled without deleting the DRM, then the DRM stays & is counted if the app is reinstalled. A problem for those who updates the OS frequently with open sourced like cyanogen/llineageos. |
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Does DRM infect my computer? If the answer is no, then it is neither malware nor a virus. Your argument would hold more water if you used better analogies. Ok, so you can't read a book with it. That would be an obstacle or a roadblock. Not virus or malware. |
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Have you actually tried support? I read somewhere that people that use very wrong words are not taken seriously. |
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Related to that, if different types of rights can't be managed (e.g., open, print, loan/limited copy, etc.), it's not DRM. |
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