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The World is NOT just the US. So for Amazon to (in good conscience) to call the service Kindle World, it should be available to all countries where Amazon sells eBooks. Otherwise call it Kindle USA.
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I think the "World" part of it refers to authors writing for worlds created by other authors.
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And I'm perfectly OK with you thinking that. Hell, I think they should be allowed to buy it, too. I just don't realistically see it happening (and I don't believe Amazon has any moral, legal, or obligatory responsibility to sell it).
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I'm going to say no, it doesn't have to be a real address. If you read through the Kobo discounts thread, I believe you'll find many people saying they simply change their address (it doesn't have to be valid) to get around couponing geo restrictions, so I believe you can get around other geo-retrictions also.
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I can imagine how difficult it might be to implement geo-restrictions in software and how many loose ends they have to tie up. They have to consider the rules of the publisher and of the publisher's contract with the author as well as the laws of the various countries, for each book.
I used to be a programmer for a multinational financial corporation which owned a lot of mutual funds among other things and every share we sold as well as every investment made by the various funds had to be vetted according to the charter of the fund, the laws of the state the fund resided in as well as the laws of the nation and state where it was being purchased. This was a huge undertaking. It can get incredibly complex. Knowing that it was impossible to always get it right we had to always err conservatively and even that was extremely complex. I imagine Amazon faces something of the same thing with automating geo-restrictions although the penalty for getting it wrong is less severe. It's entirely understandable that mistakes will be made. In fact it's inconceivable that they wouldn't make mistakes. Our company wrote our software in-house for almost everything. We had one of the earliest automation systems and certainly the most comprehensive and sophisticated one in the business. But the vetting of transactions was never considered for in-house automation. We used third party software for that. It was just too big a job to do in-house. It's the only software we wouldn't do ourselves. Barry |
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Not heard back since, even though the author offered to help me. Maybe they were busy, perhaps still are .... or have become aware of my getting a refund, and think it not worth bothering with anymore? I will be sending them an email shortly, to explain I am quite happy to re-buy those 3 parts again, if I can get the 4th. Especially if I can get them in the now complete ebook, which contains all 4 parts. Hell, that could even work out cheaper. And if I can bypass Amazon to do it, even better. I don't know how some can say the things they do say in this topic, it beggars belief for me. Some of it is purely irrelevant. How can one get past the fact, that they Amazon, are a service a facilitator, and that is what both the buyers and sellers pay them for. Clearly they are not living up to their duty and obligations ... especially when they call all the shots. Without us, they are nothing ... they should not forget that. P.S. Over the years I have been in contact with other authors or seen comments they have written, and many aren't happy with Amazon, but deal with them because they are forced to. One author (Piers Anthony) a year or two back, even sold me an ebook directly from his publisher, without DRM, because it was unavailable to me through Amazon. It was the first or last book (I forget) in a five book series. The other four were available to me via Amazon (very cheap too), but I wanted to ensure I could get all 5 in the same format, before purchasing any. That was a time, when I was still struggling over getting ebooks for authors where I had long collected their works as physical books. My thinking at the time, was keep to physical, unless a new author or new series. Now, because I like ebooks so much, prefer to read them, and because DRM hasn't proved an issue for me, I just buy as ebook ... except perhaps for a final book in a series, where I have all the others as physical. And then other authors have little control over their publisher, so cannot help, even though they want to ... like Robin Hobb. Last edited by Timboli; 10-21-2016 at 02:43 PM. |
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@barryem - I understand what you are saying, and I am prepared to cut them slack, but they need to do the same, once made aware of a mistake or unfairness.
If they want me to do the right thing, then they need to too. As it is, it is already an unbalanced affair in their favor. |
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Doesn't seem like you like chatting or the vagaries of language very much ... odd for a MOD at a place that deals with the written word. Irony indeed. Perhaps after wasting time with Amazon Help, I am making up for lost ground, by chatting more pleasantly here. Then of course I am well known elsewhere for my love of Word Walls. Enjoy your day! P.S. In fact, I've gotten to know you so well, that I fully realize that the term 'Control Freak', really got to you. Perhaps I even intended it should. ![]() P.S.S. And just so people can reflect on this, including yourself. You attacked me, either because you don't like me or what I am saying. Why? I can only presume you think you are superior. I on the other hand, don't attack people for having a different view to mine, only after they attack me first, do I then attack them, and then it is just part of my defense response. Clearly we are very different people, and only one of us believes in a respectful robust conversation and has a good grasp of language ... including the use of the word Irony. Last edited by Timboli; 10-21-2016 at 07:02 PM. |
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Thanks for filling me in. I like the idea of Kindle Worlds when I first read about it on Joe Konrathr's blog, though I haven't read any of the books myself. I wasn't aware of some of the more high profile worlds. As we don't know what rights Amazon has with the authors/publishers of these worlds, some or all could be geographically limited. And latepaul's post could well be correct.
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Amazon was one of the one's I was changing. I entered the info. Got a message I already had an account of that name. Tried to get them to send me an email to get the password. Didn't work. Must have done an automatic click along the way because it accepted the new address BUT when I got logged in at the new address I had nothing in my account. No info, No credit card info, NO BOOKS ARGH. No purchase history. Now I try to find a way to get them to link the account I was changing the email on to the amazon@mydomain.com account and I can not find a way to email them. There is nothing at all that will let me put in info about my problem. How did you finally get into a position to send email to them. HELP. If you have an address or hints on how to at least get near communicating with a person versus the "LAND OF FORMS" I have been struggling with. Thanks PS good thing I have all my purchases backed up |
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@LadyKate. I can recommend the online chat from their webpage. I've found they can resolve most things quickly and easily.
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LadyKate it's best to call them for this kind of problem. You are going to need to be able verify who you are.
Here's their number 1-888-280-3321 Sent from my XT1528 Last edited by Blossom; 10-22-2016 at 03:24 AM. |
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Perhaps you need to give it a little break. After all, your arguments (in a rhetorical sense) are getting a bit old. I think we get it. Why not read a few books and relax? Enjoy the day. Go out for dinner. See a great movie. Take the dog (or your animal of choice) with you to the park. Bring your ebook, wife, or girlfriend along with you. Or all three! Relax and have some fun! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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