"All-New" Kindle Paperwhite with 300ppi display - June 30th - Page 8

DreamWriter · 06-19-2015, 10:30 AM

Here's an excellent Kindle Chronicles video where Len Edgerly compares the new Paperwhite 3 with both Paperwhite 2 and Voyage.

Barty · 06-19-2015, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

A lot of Voyage owners are going to feel ripped off.

why? The voyage still has plenty to recommend it. Also, they've had a year to enjoy it.

Maybe if you bought the voyage 31 days ago primarily for the better screen, then yeah you may be slightly bummed.

Kolenka · 06-19-2015, 02:39 PM

Yeah, I don't really consider the Voyage a rip off with this change. Maybe a bit overpriced for the smaller feature set it has over the PW3 though.

My issues with the Voyage have more to do with the ergonomics of the thing. I like the features, but it just doesn't sit in my hand like a PW does. And for me, the ergonomics are more important, now that the PW has the same resolution screen.

patrickt · 06-19-2015, 04:02 PM

I'm sure there are those who feel ripped off because they have a Kindle Keyboard and can't trade it for a Voyage. That's life.

My PW2 was on it's 29th day today so I contacted Customer Service with that Contact Us button that so many can't find. I said it was a bit tacky but asked if I could exchange it for a PW3. They sent me shipping labels and said if it got underway today I was gold. I ran, literally, to the UPS depot, where they know me well, and got there 5 minutes before they locked the doors. The manager came out and helped me with the forms, approved that packaging, and accepted the package. Woo-hoo.

I have never had anything but excellent service from Amazon.

Barbara1955 · 06-19-2015, 04:08 PM

DreamWriter THANKS for the clip!

SCION · 06-19-2015, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrickt

I'm sure there are those who feel ripped off because they have a Kindle Keyboard and can't trade it for a Voyage. That's life.

My PW2 was on it's 29th day today so I contacted Customer Service with that Contact Us button that so many can't find. I said it was a bit tacky but asked if I could exchange it for a PW3. They sent me shipping labels and said if it got underway today I was gold. I ran, literally, to the UPS depot, where they know me well, and got there 5 minutes before they locked the doors. The manager came out and helped me with the forms, approved that packaging, and accepted the package. Woo-hoo.

I have never had anything but excellent service from Amazon.

Excellent accommodation!

dordale · 06-19-2015, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

A lot of Voyage owners are going to feel ripped off.

I think it's more likely that people who purchased a PW2 in the last couple of months will feel ripped off.

HarryT · 06-19-2015, 05:51 PM

I don't see why anyone would feel "ripped off"; Amazon have done nothing dishonest or unethical here. What do you suggest they do? Say "don't buy a Paperwhite now because we'll be releasing a new model in a couple of months"?

Atunah · 06-19-2015, 07:08 PM

Why would I feel ripped off? What does a new PW have to do with my Voyage? They have different features, still after this upgrade to the PW there are feature differences. I got the Voyage for a reason. Even if there was a new Voyage right now I wouldn't feel ripped off. Its how things go with electronics.

But in this case the Voyage and PW are still different devices.

Tarana · 06-19-2015, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by patrickt

I agree but I question the Voyage's $80 differnce in price. I don't use the haptic buttons. I like the touch screen. For the $80 I can buy a lovely case and five books I wouldn't normally buy.

See, and I would spend the extra for the buttons. I have 3 kindle keyboards - my Mom's paperwhite drives me nuts, but she likes it. I get on well with the touch screen on the kindle fire, but not on the ereaders.

I won't be preordering this because I just can't justify it when I already have 5 ereaders and 2 tablets.

Besides, the new PPW doesn't have buttons.

odamizu · 06-19-2015, 10:29 PM

I'm strangely thrilled about the PW3. I don't want one, nor do I feel ripped off having bought the Voyage. The smaller, lighter form factor of the Voyage is worth the extra money to me, plus I like the haptic buttons and flat screen. So even if I were buying a new Kindle now, I'd choose the Voyage. But it pleases me incredibly that Amazon has put forth a 300ppi mid-priced Kindle. Options are good!

dordale · 06-20-2015, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

I don't see why anyone would feel "ripped off"; Amazon have done nothing dishonest or unethical here. What do you suggest they do? Say "don't buy a Paperwhite now because we'll be releasing a new model in a couple of months"?

I do agree Harry--nothing to feel ripped off about. Maybe (probably) a little disappointed if I'd just purchased a PW, but I wouldn't feel ripped off. That happened to me with an iPod i purchased quite a while ago. I bought an early model with 10gb of storage. Just a month or so later, Apple increased the storage to 15gb. No other changes--not even the price. I certainly would have liked to have the extra storage, but it didn't lessen my enjoyment I'm my iPod.

My comment to JS Wolf was simply that if anyone were to feel ripped off it would be recent PW purchasers not Voyage purchasers.

It would make no sense at all for Amazon to announce the new high res PW while continuing to sell the old model. i think the way they've went about the release--announcing it a couple weeks in advance is very fair to prospective purchasers.

patrickt · 06-20-2015, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarana

See, and I would spend the extra for the buttons. I have 3 kindle keyboards - my Mom's paperwhite drives me nuts, but she likes it. I get on well with the touch screen on the kindle fire, but not on the ereaders.

I won't be preordering this because I just can't justify it when I already have 5 ereaders and 2 tablets.

Besides, the new PPW doesn't have buttons.

I always celebrate having choices. I am delighted Kindle gave me the choice of using or not using the haptic buttons.

booklover6 · 06-20-2015, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odamizu

I'm strangely thrilled about the PW3. I don't want one, nor do I feel ripped off having bought the Voyage. The smaller, lighter form factor of the Voyage is worth the extra money to me, plus I like the haptic buttons and flat screen. So even if I were buying a new Kindle now, I'd choose the Voyage. But it pleases me incredibly that Amazon has put forth a 300ppi mid-priced Kindle. Options are good!

Hear, hear! If I was buying now, the PW3 would tempt me, however, I am glad I got the Voyage before this option was available, otherwise I wouldn't know what I was missing! Like you said, the smaller lighter form factor is one of the things I like best about the Voyage. I wish it was even smaller around the edges!

patrickt · 06-20-2015, 09:25 AM

Ripped off--cheated.
A tourist complained to me that a local merjchant cheater her. I asked how he did that and she had bought a sourvenir for $2 and right down the street a store had the same thing for $1.50. I responded, "So you fail to comparison shop and blame the merchant." It's not unusual I see a Kindle book on a site being offered from free and six months ago I paid $2 for it. Do I feel ripped off? No, I laugh and think, "Isn't that always the way?" Actually it isn't but it can feel that way.

The only time I feel ripped off or cheated is when I buy something that simply doesn't perform as advertised. I bought an RCA television that said on the front, "Stereo" and I couldn't get the sound right through my amplifier. Then I learned that it wasn't stereo. I felt cheated and ripped off.

Items go on sale. That's life. Kindle could have dropped the price on PW2 to, oh, $99 so they could deplete their stock and then come out with the new PW3 that had been in production for 60 days. I find that an offensive marketing strategy but I still wouldn't feel cheated or ripped off. I specifically waited to buy a camera I wanted until the new model came out and the older model dropped to half the previous price. It's a great camera.

06-19-2015, 04:02 PM	#109
patrickt Wizard Posts: 1,221 Karma: 8381518 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Oaxaca, Mexico Device: Paperwhite 4 X 2	I'm sure there are those who feel ripped off because they have a Kindle Keyboard and can't trade it for a Voyage. That's life. My PW2 was on it's 29th day today so I contacted Customer Service with that Contact Us button that so many can't find. I said it was a bit tacky but asked if I could exchange it for a PW3. They sent me shipping labels and said if it got underway today I was gold. I ran, literally, to the UPS depot, where they know me well, and got there 5 minutes before they locked the doors. The manager came out and helped me with the forms, approved that packaging, and accepted the package. Woo-hoo. I have never had anything but excellent service from Amazon. Last edited by patrickt; 06-19-2015 at 04:06 PM.

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DreamWriter Books are brain food. Posts: 2,950 Karma: 4836916 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: U.S. Device: Paperwhite · Fire HD6/HD8/HD10 · Galaxy Tab A7	Here's an excellent Kindle Chronicles video where Len Edgerly compares the new Paperwhite 3 with both Paperwhite 2 and Voyage.

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Kolenka <Insert Wit Here> Posts: 1,017 Karma: 1275899 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Puget Sound Device: Kindle Oasis, Kobo Forma	Yeah, I don't really consider the Voyage a rip off with this change. Maybe a bit overpriced for the smaller feature set it has over the PW3 though. My issues with the Voyage have more to do with the ergonomics of the thing. I like the features, but it just doesn't sit in my hand like a PW does. And for me, the ergonomics are more important, now that the PW has the same resolution screen.

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Barbara1955 Non-Techy Posts: 4,455 Karma: 15499273 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: WV---USA Device: Samsung Cell Phone & Amazon Fires & Kobo eReaders	DreamWriter THANKS for the clip!

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HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,549 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I don't see why anyone would feel "ripped off"; Amazon have done nothing dishonest or unethical here. What do you suggest they do? Say "don't buy a Paperwhite now because we'll be releasing a new model in a couple of months"?

06-19-2015, 07:08 PM	#114
Atunah Wizard Posts: 1,817 Karma: 23400001 Join Date: May 2012 Location: USA Device: K1/K3/BasicK Voyage/Oasis1/Oasis3	Why would I feel ripped off? What does a new PW have to do with my Voyage? They have different features, still after this upgrade to the PW there are feature differences. I got the Voyage for a reason. Even if there was a new Voyage right now I wouldn't feel ripped off. Its how things go with electronics. But in this case the Voyage and PW are still different devices.

06-19-2015, 10:29 PM	#116
odamizu just an egg Posts: 1,831 Karma: 8006102 Join Date: Mar 2015 Device: Kindle, iOS	I'm strangely thrilled about the PW3. I don't want one, nor do I feel ripped off having bought the Voyage. The smaller, lighter form factor of the Voyage is worth the extra money to me, plus I like the haptic buttons and flat screen. So even if I were buying a new Kindle now, I'd choose the Voyage. But it pleases me incredibly that Amazon has put forth a 300ppi mid-priced Kindle. Options are good!

06-20-2015, 09:25 AM	#120
patrickt Wizard Posts: 1,221 Karma: 8381518 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Oaxaca, Mexico Device: Paperwhite 4 X 2	Ripped off--cheated. A tourist complained to me that a local merjchant cheater her. I asked how he did that and she had bought a sourvenir for $2 and right down the street a store had the same thing for $1.50. I responded, "So you fail to comparison shop and blame the merchant." It's not unusual I see a Kindle book on a site being offered from free and six months ago I paid $2 for it. Do I feel ripped off? No, I laugh and think, "Isn't that always the way?" Actually it isn't but it can feel that way. The only time I feel ripped off or cheated is when I buy something that simply doesn't perform as advertised. I bought an RCA television that said on the front, "Stereo" and I couldn't get the sound right through my amplifier. Then I learned that it wasn't stereo. I felt cheated and ripped off. Items go on sale. That's life. Kindle could have dropped the price on PW2 to, oh, $99 so they could deplete their stock and then come out with the new PW3 that had been in production for 60 days. I find that an offensive marketing strategy but I still wouldn't feel cheated or ripped off. I specifically waited to buy a camera I wanted until the new model came out and the older model dropped to half the previous price. It's a great camera.

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