Taxes for online shopping gaining support in Congress and Amazon - Page 8

tubemonkey · 08-01-2012, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cjr72

Senator Jim DeMint on why he opposes this legislation.

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Our nation was born from the idea of "no taxation without representation"—that citizens should not be taxed by governments in which they have no political voice.

Since I don't have a political voice in South Carolina (I'm from Washington), then I take it that the good senator would support me visiting his home state and making tax free purchases?

QuantumIguana · 08-01-2012, 02:11 PM

If I buy something in a store, it's obvious where the transaction took place. Online, it's not at all obvious. Some like DeMint, think the transaction took place at the seller's server. Others think the transaction took place right in your living room. But this isn't taxation without representation. I'm being charged a sales tax by my state, were I am represented. But if I cross the border to shop in person, that could be seen as taxation without representation, as I am paying state sales tax in a state where I am not represented. If I pay sales taxes to my state for for purchases over the internet, that is taxation with representation.

Catlady · 08-01-2012, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by QuantumIguana

If I buy something in a store, it's obvious where the transaction took place. Online, it's not at all obvious. Some like DeMint, think the transaction took place at the seller's server. Others think the transaction took place right in your living room. But this isn't taxation without representation. I'm being charged a sales tax by my state, were I am represented. But if I cross the border to shop in person, that could be seen as taxation without representation, as I am paying state sales tax in a state where I am not represented. If I pay sales taxes to my state for for purchases over the internet, that is taxation with representation.

Careful, though. A national sales tax might be the solution to the conundrum.

QuantumIguana · 08-01-2012, 02:51 PM

You could have a national sales tax, but I don't think it would resolve the issue, but rather add another issue. States would still be collecting sales tax, a national sales tax on online shopping would simply divert tax revenues from the states to the federal government. I would think those who want the federal government to do less and have power moved down to the state level should be eager to see sales tax collected by the states.

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08-01-2012, 02:11 PM	#107
QuantumIguana Philosopher Posts: 2,034 Karma: 18736532 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2 gen, Kindle Fire 1st Gen, Kindle Touch	If I buy something in a store, it's obvious where the transaction took place. Online, it's not at all obvious. Some like DeMint, think the transaction took place at the seller's server. Others think the transaction took place right in your living room. But this isn't taxation without representation. I'm being charged a sales tax by my state, were I am represented. But if I cross the border to shop in person, that could be seen as taxation without representation, as I am paying state sales tax in a state where I am not represented. If I pay sales taxes to my state for for purchases over the internet, that is taxation with representation.

08-01-2012, 02:51 PM	#109
QuantumIguana Philosopher Posts: 2,034 Karma: 18736532 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2 gen, Kindle Fire 1st Gen, Kindle Touch	You could have a national sales tax, but I don't think it would resolve the issue, but rather add another issue. States would still be collecting sales tax, a national sales tax on online shopping would simply divert tax revenues from the states to the federal government. I would think those who want the federal government to do less and have power moved down to the state level should be eager to see sales tax collected by the states.

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