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Amazon had very good promo features. "people who bought..." They start programs like the lending feature, which they then market--and people buy what they see. Forums, such as this one, are less and less welcome to allow authors. Many people don't want to try independent authors. (Many do.) So it's a "carrot" deal. I don't happen to feel it's a great carrot for the long term, but that's why I'm asking. The fine print is NOT fine print. Amazon is VERY, VERY clear that if they catch authors selling outside the exclusivity, they not only will withhold payment (for sales and lending) the author will owe them (so if we're on Amazon with other books, I would imagine they could stop payments altogether if they felt an author owed them.) They also have a clause that says all books from that author maybe banned from sale on Amazon. Look, Amazon holds a LOT, LOT, LOT of cards. There are currently 17k books in the prime lending. That's a pittance. An author getting listed in that program has a great chance of being noticed by a reader looking. Put a first book in the series and get the reader hooked? They may go on to buy the rest. So I understand WHY Amazon is doing it. I also understand WHY authors will sign up for it. I also understand why it's not that great a deal in the long run. I want my books to be read. I want them widely available. What if Amazon stops paying 70 percent next year? And I've done nothing but have my books available through them? It could be a little late to attract a Nook, Sony, etc audience. When you hand over the keys to the kingdom, don't be surprised if you find yourself out of power. I really appreciate the input y'all are posting here. It's a very difficult position to be in because, as I said, Amazon is certainly hinting that those in the program are going to see some promo from Amazon. If people are using the "lending" feature they are going to see those books. And from what I've read on forums, people are using the lending feature. They are browsing it, they are using it. |
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This is not a clear-cut decision for many authors. For a few (those with very popular books—especially if they have a series—and most sales at Amazon already), it will be a good opportunity from a financial standpoint; but for most, I don't believe it will pay off. Last edited by DreamWriter; 12-08-2011 at 06:14 PM. |
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I don't think many of the authors opting in understand the significance of the non-compete clause. In fact, I'd argue that many authors are jumping into this without even realizing there *is* a non-compete clause. Let's look at it again - "or content that is reasonably likely to compete commercially with your Digital Book, diminish its value, or be confused with it".
It's not just that you're giving Amazon exclusive rights to your book. You're agreeing to not publish anything, anywhere based on Amazon's whim. They could very well decide that the 5 page free read you put up on your website will "diminish [the] value" of the book you have with them. Then they'll withhold your royalties because you'll be considered in breach of contract. Only time will tell whether that will happen. I think it's a toss up between Amazon trying to grab as many rights as they can just in case, but not really intending to keep writers in a strangle hold, and them aggressively policing members who opt into the program. I'd like to think that somewhere down the road an author won't find that Amazon refuses to pay them their royalties because they put up a free read on their site, but frankly I wouldn't be surprised if that does happen. |
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Are there any signs or reports of Amazon being unfair to authors?
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Well, they are fairly aggressive about price matching. When Kobo had that glitch that lowered the price of some self-published ebooks, Amazon jumped right on it and lowered the prices on their site. I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that they'd strictly enforce their non-compete clause. We'll just have to wait and see what they do.
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I think at this point they are attempting to keep authors playing fair: Don't give it away on your website, don't give away too many chapters for free, don't change the title and cover and try to sell it somewhere else. Authors have been known to be...less than honest, desperate, conniving, and so on. I'm quite sure Amazon has noticed this type of behavior in the past. ![]() There's pros and cons. But a lot of authors have talked in many forums about how many more we sell on Amazon. While NO ONE wants to alienate a single reader, I can still see why it's tempting. Some people may sort by price or popularity--but a lot of them sort by things like "cozy mystery" or "urban fantasy." And that could mean exposure. I mean, seriously. It worked when there were only a few of us indies joining the ranks two and five years ago. It will likely work again, especially for a "free" lending. Some are going to be cautious, especially at first, saving the "lending" for an expensive book. But after a while, readers may not even notice the price. They might be far more interested in "genre" and grabbing something for a quick weekend or whatever catches their eye. Not all readers are as...well, we here at mobilread tend to read a LOT and some of us stay organized about what is checked out from the library and what can be had and where. But a lot of my friends read willy-nilly. They grab things when something catches their eyeballs. And Amazon is very good at catching eyeballs right now. |
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I should also point out that B&N has been trying new things and working harder to get books exposed to likely audiences. I think they are trying a lot harder than they were a year ago. So things can change. You never know when one retailer might take off.
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The Hunger Games trilogy claim the top three spots. It looks like Ms Collins will bring home a sizable piece of the $500,000.
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So, most large publishers are paid a fixed price for each book borrowed, and they are not sharing in the $500,000 pot. That money is only available to those who publish exclusively through Amazon's Kindle Direct Publishing (independent authors and small press). Here's a link to Amazon's press release that was published today. |
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So you're saying you don't think it will matter to authors? Or to readers? Or both? Could be. Could be that getting noticed is so difficult, our measly attempts will merely be ignored...
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I saw this today. As an author who has books on Amazon, I'm not sure what to make of it. Most of my sales are there anyway, but I don't necessarily want to penalize folks who have Nook or other e-readers. I understand Amazon's motivation--they already have the lion's share of book sales; now it appears they want them all--but I'd hate to see the readers suffer just because they're locked into their current e-readers. In all fairness to them, don't know that I'd jump on this offer myself.
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So, is there a way to determine how many titles are in the KDP Select program? |
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