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BTW, unless they've appeared very recently, you can't buy John Grisham eBooks legally either with or without DRM. I think he's announced that they will become available in the near future but, AFAIK, they aren't available yet. |
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If we let the publisher know in no uncertain terms that we do not want DRM and we will strip it if you use it, then maybe they'll get the message that it's not actually working and stop bothering. But if we just stop purchasing DRM infected eBooks without informing the publishers just what we are doing, all that will happen is they will think eBooks do not sell and won't bother. So we'll be the ones to lose out. Before there is a boycott of any kind, we HAVE to let the publisher and the eBook shops know that we WILL NOT be purchasing eBooks as long as they have DRM. And to prove this, we also MUST purchase more eBooks that are sans DRM. This means no Sony eBookStore, no Amazon.com, no library withdrawals, etc. So if it has DRM and you would have purchased it, then informing the publisher and vendor who is selling (if different from the publisher) why you will not purchase is what we'd have to do instead of just stopping the purchase. Or We could just purchase eBooks like we do know and then contact the publisher every time we purchase an eBook where we strip off the DRM to format shift/protect our investment that we have done so. Let them know that their locks are broken and the key has gotten out and been copied. I would go for the second option since the first option prohibits me from content I do want to read that is infected with DRM. The second option allows me to read what I want while letting the publishers know that their locks do not work and that to keep using them is a waste of money. |
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And so we need to tap-dance faster??? Let's stop the dance competition and get rid of the law that creates such a stupid situation. Derek |
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![]() Of course that makes one hate socialism and governmental stupid restrictions too ![]() So three cheers for the super-programmer that cracked ePub and hope he/she follows up with the big enchilada of cracking pdf drm too ![]() |
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If Baen's non-DRMed books sell well but not DRMed bestseller, the publishers cannot tell between two explanations: a) ebook readers are more partial to SF/Fantasy genre (or more specifically Baen authors) and/or bestseller readers do not want them in ebook. b) People hate the inconvenience of DRM. If publishers conclude a) (no ebook market for bestseller), they may stop publishing them in ebook. In contrast, by buying books with the most easily circumvented DRM (e.g. lit or now epub), consumers can clearly signal to publishers that we are willing to pay for ebooks but hate DRM. How will publishers know that consumers hate DRM if DRMed books sell well? For example, if the epub sales goes up after the new de-drm tool is available, it will signal b) but not a). (BTW, I would love to do this analysis with proper data but I am not sure whether they are available). 2. Quote:
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