5.6.5 Jailbreak (closed-kindle) -- released! - Page 74

knc1 · 05-28-2016, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odifinaro

I have a jailbroken 5.4.5 PW2. Should I first upgrade the jailbreak to this one and then upgrade the firmware to 5.6.5 or the other way around?

Just be certain you have a recent jailbreak - -
The simplest way is for you to install the 'hotfix' package -
Link given in first post of this thread.

After doing that - your jailbreak will 'self re-install' after any Amazon update.
(The 'hotfix' package contains the parts that make the JB viral. -
It is almost as viral as the GPL license.

)

odifinaro · 05-29-2016, 12:45 PM

I upgraded it to 5.6.5 then jailbroke it.

Then the jailbreak survived an upgrade to 5.7.4. S/N model of my device is 9017.

Thank you all!

Katanaqui · 06-05-2016, 07:05 PM

Hi. I'm completely new to kindles, and have recently acquired what I think is known here as a KT2 - its serial number is 90C6, so according to the serial numbers table that makes it a Kindle Basic (2014); Amazon also calls it a 7th Generation Kindle. Its firmware is expected to be 5.6.5, and I've not even turned it on yet, let alone immediately sticking it in aeroplane mode (long story short this is my second KT2 this week). It's UK, English, if that makes a difference.

I've been back through pages and pages of this thread, as well as having filtered the Developer's Corner to the KT2-only posts, and honestly all the different names and versions are just completely confusing me. I'd really like to be certain of what's what before I accidentally screw up my new kindle, so would someone be kind enough to bear with me and answer the following questions please:

Does this closed jailbreak work for a KT2 (fw 5.6.5); has someone tried/confirmed it on this particular model, will it just work because it's fw5.6.5, or am I guinea-pigging it?
Assuming I install both the jailbreak and then the associated hotfix successfully, will the jailbreak survive an OTA update to fw5.7.4? Will I need to reinstall anything after this fw update - I think I read that the jb should hold, but that the hotfix step needs repeating?
Similarly, does KUAL and its extensions such as MRPI work for the KT2? I'm assuming yes to KUAL as it states the later PW3 is supported, but double checking as it also says 'universal but with a caveat of not working on some earlier KT2 fw'. (I realise this point suggests an answer to my first question of yes the KT2 can be jailbroken, but I'm interested in the closed jb specifically).
Is there an up to date list I've missed with add-ons known to work for the KT2? Again, I read the KUAL extensions thread, but the first post appears out of date, and I got lost in the many pages and different device names thereafter. I could try guinea pig testing some of them, but is that likely to be dangerous to my kindle if it fails or will it simply be a dead file that just doesn't work and I can delete it after via usb?

Thank you so much!

NiLuJe · 06-05-2016, 08:51 PM

@Katanaqui: Double-check your initial findings, CN is *NOT* an expected device ID code. (C6, on the other hand, is, for a KT2).

Barring that initial snafu,

1. Yes.
2. Yes. (No need to reinstall the jb/hotfix itself, since the initial hotfix install as part of the JB takes care of that. For the rest of custom stuff, yes, as official updates basically wipe anything not hosted on the USB partition).
3. Yes for KUAL & MRPI. Maybe for the rest, since that entirely depends on the extension. Anything reported as working on FW >= 5.6.5 should work, regardless of the exact device.
4. Depends on whether said extensions are actively maintained or not. Stuff that is trivial enough doesn't really care about the actual device/FW. Other things, not so much. When in doubt, don't hesitate to ask (w/ a specific extension name/link).

kindleboyman · 06-06-2016, 09:19 AM

Hey,
I've been searching for information on the Kindle PW 2015 but it seems the newest firmware isn't jailbreakable? I'm talking about the 5.7.4.1 update, I got a kindle 2 days ago but the first thing it did when connected to my wlan was autoupdate itself without even prompting (thanks amazon..).

Am I completely out of luck?
I was hoping to fiddle around with it.

pdurrant · 06-06-2016, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kindleboyman

Am I completely out of luck?
I was hoping to fiddle around with it.

If you like hardware hacking, you can open it and jailbreak it over the serial interface. Not for the faint-hearted though!

Katanaqui · 06-06-2016, 10:44 AM

Great, thank you NiLuJe! And yes you're right, I did mean 90C6 (typo, think I took a look at the final digits being CN

)

Ok so, jb -> hotfix -> update to fw5.7.4 -> KUAL + MRPI etc. -> other custom things. Got it

Actually, I think I'll jb -> hotfix -> KUAL + MRPI etc. -> update -> other custom things, just in case KUAL doesn't work for any reason and I lose the chance to start over.

knc1 · 06-06-2016, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katanaqui

Great, thank you NiLuJe! And yes you're right, I did mean 90C6 (typo, think I took a look at the final digits being CN

)

Ok so, jb -> hotfix -> update to fw5.7.4 -> KUAL + MRPI etc. -> other custom things. Got it

Actually, I think I'll jb -> hotfix -> KUAL + MRPI etc. -> update -> other custom things, just in case KUAL doesn't work for any reason and I lose the chance to start over.

The firmware version (more recent than early series 2.x) that KUAL will not run on has not (yet) been built.

Comments about discontinuing "Active Content" are about the Amzon store operations, not the abilities of the devices themselves.

NiLuJe · 06-06-2016, 12:19 PM

I'd just double-check that things are working as they should before the official update, but, yep, that's basically it

.

kindleboyman · 06-06-2016, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdurrant

If you like hardware hacking, you can open it and jailbreak it over the serial interface. Not for the faint-hearted though!

What features are made accessible by jailbreaking, have you done hardware hacking yourself? Any guides you can vouch for?

Cinisajoy · 06-06-2016, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kindleboyman

What features are made accessible by jailbreaking, have you done hardware hacking yourself? Any guides you can vouch for?

The ultimate guide is right here.
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=267541

TheFattie · 06-07-2016, 01:03 AM

Will factory resetting disable/'destroy' the jailbreak?

knc1 · 06-07-2016, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheFattie

Will factory resetting disable/'destroy' the jailbreak?

No.
It will only destroy the ability of the jailbreak to self re-install.

- - - -

It is replacing the full image of the main O.S. (normal Amazon update process) that destroys the "jailbreak" (our developer's signature certificate).

If, at the time that update happens, the code to self re-install the certificate is not present, then the certificate does not get installed in the updated main O.S. image.

It requires TWO actions - in a SPECIFIC ORDER - to 'destroy the jail break'.

1) 'Reset (to factory defaults)'
2) A full image update from Amazon.

Note:
The jail break bridge code can self-recover from:
2 then 1
2 only

Zeya · 06-08-2016, 08:41 PM

I recently bought a PW3, updated it to 5.6.5 and installed the jailbreak with hotfix and started using KOReader without issue. A few days ago I manually updated to 5.7.4.1. Everything appears to be working fine, except when I’m in KOReader I notice parts of the Kindle status bar will pop up on the page after 10-30 seconds after a page turn. It’s usually just the time that will pop up, but sometimes the battery icon or wifi status icon will show as well. It’s a minor distraction that ends up being somewhat convenient at times.

Is there a way to revert back to 5.6.5 by doing a factory reset and starting the whole process over? Or now that I’ve updated will it not go back to it’s original firmware version, which was earlier than 5.6.5? Are most people staying on 5.6.5 or are they updating after jailbreaking? Is there a preferred firmware version to update to and not go beyond?

knc1 · 06-08-2016, 09:24 PM

The interference of the top bar -
I think I recall that being mentioned here before, and it may be fixed already.

You don't mention what version of KOreader your running or where you got it, so I can't say if using NiLuJe's most recent build would act the same.

Whatever the KOreader situation is, it isn't worth changing firmware versions to avoid.
Since it either is already fixed or will be fixed.

There isn't any technical reason that I can think of not to stay with the current Amazon release (there might be personal preference issues over the feature sets, but not technical ones).

Note: 5.7.4.1 on the PW-3 is the only combination on which Amazon currently supports voiceview.

06-05-2016, 07:05 PM	#1098
Katanaqui Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2016 Device: KT2 (7th Gen)	Does this jailbreak work on the KT2? Hi. I'm completely new to kindles, and have recently acquired what I think is known here as a KT2 - its serial number is 90C6, so according to the serial numbers table that makes it a Kindle Basic (2014); Amazon also calls it a 7th Generation Kindle. Its firmware is expected to be 5.6.5, and I've not even turned it on yet, let alone immediately sticking it in aeroplane mode (long story short this is my second KT2 this week). It's UK, English, if that makes a difference. I've been back through pages and pages of this thread, as well as having filtered the Developer's Corner to the KT2-only posts, and honestly all the different names and versions are just completely confusing me. I'd really like to be certain of what's what before I accidentally screw up my new kindle, so would someone be kind enough to bear with me and answer the following questions please: Does this closed jailbreak work for a KT2 (fw 5.6.5); has someone tried/confirmed it on this particular model, will it just work because it's fw5.6.5, or am I guinea-pigging it? Assuming I install both the jailbreak and then the associated hotfix successfully, will the jailbreak survive an OTA update to fw5.7.4? Will I need to reinstall anything after this fw update - I think I read that the jb should hold, but that the hotfix step needs repeating? Similarly, does KUAL and its extensions such as MRPI work for the KT2? I'm assuming yes to KUAL as it states the later PW3 is supported, but double checking as it also says 'universal but with a caveat of not working on some earlier KT2 fw'. (I realise this point suggests an answer to my first question of yes the KT2 can be jailbroken, but I'm interested in the closed jb specifically). Is there an up to date list I've missed with add-ons known to work for the KT2? Again, I read the KUAL extensions thread, but the first post appears out of date, and I got lost in the many pages and different device names thereafter. I could try guinea pig testing some of them, but is that likely to be dangerous to my kindle if it fails or will it simply be a dead file that just doesn't work and I can delete it after via usb? Thank you so much! Last edited by Katanaqui; 06-06-2016 at 10:45 AM. Reason: Typo

06-05-2016, 08:51 PM	#1099
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047202 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@Katanaqui: Double-check your initial findings, CN is NOT an expected device ID code. (C6, on the other hand, is, for a KT2). Barring that initial snafu, 1. Yes. 2. Yes. (No need to reinstall the jb/hotfix itself, since the initial hotfix install as part of the JB takes care of that. For the rest of custom stuff, yes, as official updates basically wipe anything not hosted on the USB partition). 3. Yes for KUAL & MRPI. Maybe for the rest, since that entirely depends on the extension. Anything reported as working on FW >= 5.6.5 should work, regardless of the exact device. 4. Depends on whether said extensions are actively maintained or not. Stuff that is trivial enough doesn't really care about the actual device/FW. Other things, not so much. When in doubt, don't hesitate to ask (w/ a specific extension name/link). Last edited by NiLuJe; 06-05-2016 at 08:55 PM.

06-06-2016, 10:44 AM	#1102
Katanaqui Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2016 Device: KT2 (7th Gen)	Great, thank you NiLuJe! And yes you're right, I did mean 90C6 (typo, think I took a look at the final digits being CN ) Ok so, jb -> hotfix -> update to fw5.7.4 -> KUAL + MRPI etc. -> other custom things. Got it Actually, I think I'll jb -> hotfix -> KUAL + MRPI etc. -> update -> other custom things, just in case KUAL doesn't work for any reason and I lose the chance to start over. Last edited by Katanaqui; 06-06-2016 at 11:23 AM.

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Zeya Member Posts: 14 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2016 Device: Paperwhite 3	I recently bought a PW3, updated it to 5.6.5 and installed the jailbreak with hotfix and started using KOReader without issue. A few days ago I manually updated to 5.7.4.1. Everything appears to be working fine, except when I’m in KOReader I notice parts of the Kindle status bar will pop up on the page after 10-30 seconds after a page turn. It’s usually just the time that will pop up, but sometimes the battery icon or wifi status icon will show as well. It’s a minor distraction that ends up being somewhat convenient at times. Is there a way to revert back to 5.6.5 by doing a factory reset and starting the whole process over? Or now that I’ve updated will it not go back to it’s original firmware version, which was earlier than 5.6.5? Are most people staying on 5.6.5 or are they updating after jailbreaking? Is there a preferred firmware version to update to and not go beyond?

06-08-2016, 09:24 PM	#1110
knc1 Going Viral Posts: 17,212 Karma: 18210809 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Central Texas Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA	The interference of the top bar - I think I recall that being mentioned here before, and it may be fixed already. You don't mention what version of KOreader your running or where you got it, so I can't say if using NiLuJe's most recent build would act the same. Whatever the KOreader situation is, it isn't worth changing firmware versions to avoid. Since it either is already fixed or will be fixed. There isn't any technical reason that I can think of not to stay with the current Amazon release (there might be personal preference issues over the feature sets, but not technical ones). Note: 5.7.4.1 on the PW-3 is the only combination on which Amazon currently supports voiceview.

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