Questions for new Iliad owners! - Page 7

arivero · 07-14-2006, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arivero

Hmm it seems I opened a separate thread, then nobody noticed them:

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...2212#post32212

The examples are got from a random website on javascript.

Besides javascript, the other thing to test are html FORMs. This is because a form field of the kind

Code:

<input type="file" name="somename" size="chars">

is expected to pop-up an "open..." window letting you browse across the filesystem. So I wonder if this feature is enabled (it can be restricted).

tribble · 07-14-2006, 02:59 PM

A portscan (wireless) revealed only 2 open ports. 25 (smtp) and 110 (pop3).
Connecting via telnet doesnt reveal much, not normal smtp or pop3. I guess Wireshark will tell us more during iDs connection.

arivero · 07-14-2006, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tribble

A portscan (wireless) revealed only 2 open ports. 25 (smtp) and 110 (pop3).
Connecting via telnet doesnt reveal much, not normal smtp or pop3. I guess Wireshark will tell us more during iDs connection.

Yep. It could be either a bug (why to have pop3??) or a "clever" trick to bypass firewalls during connection to iRex mother site.

arivero · 07-14-2006, 03:02 PM

Hmm another trivial question: what does it happen if you attach a USB keyboard (eg from a Macintosh) and restart the machine? I do not really expect a console to appear because the eink display is considered too slow and developers just use an extenal terminal connection. But who knows. Perhaps you can fill notes by typing.

R2D2 · 07-14-2006, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arivero

why to have pop3??.

Did they not want to integrate an Email client?

Maybe updates and content are "pushed" by Email? That wouldn't be that stupid, would it be?

arivero · 07-14-2006, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R2D2

Did they not want to integrate an Email client?

Maybe updates and content are "pushed" by Email? That wouldn't be that stupid, would it be?

But SMTP is the port receiving the push, not the POP3. And yep it seems an interesting idea but I am not sure for a mobile device.

tribble · 07-14-2006, 03:15 PM

pop3 on port 25 is a server, you dont need that to fetch mails.
And the servers are not answering like normal smtp or pop3 would

@aviero: some javascript seems to work. Browser seems based on nescape 5.0

arivero · 07-14-2006, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tribble

@aviero: some javascript seems to work. Browser seems based on nescape 5.0

Applause! It is possible to get more info with an extended script

http://www.w3schools.com/js/tryit.as..._dom_navigator

Code:

<html>
<body>

<script type="text/javascript">
var x = navigator
document.write("CodeName=" + x.appCodeName)
document.write("<br />")
document.write("MinorVersion=" + x.appMinorVersion)
document.write("<br />")
document.write("Name=" + x.appName)
document.write("<br />")
document.write("Version=" + x.appVersion)
document.write("<br />")
document.write("CookieEnabled=" + x.cookieEnabled)
document.write("<br />")
document.write("CPUClass=" + x.cpuClass)
document.write("<br />")
document.write("OnLine=" + x.onLine)
document.write("<br />")
document.write("Platform=" + x.platform)
document.write("<br />")
document.write("UA=" + x.userAgent)
document.write("<br />")
document.write("BrowserLanguage=" + x.browserLanguage)
document.write("<br />")
document.write("SystemLanguage=" + x.systemLanguage)
document.write("<br />")
document.write("UserLanguage=" + x.userLanguage)
</script>
</body>
</html>

Actually, userAgent is the interesting thing as it traditionally lists the Operating System. Also Platform could do the trick.

allovertheglobe · 07-14-2006, 03:33 PM

The iRex Iliad... I have followed it for quite a while now, and have not often seen so much written with so little actual information available

Anyhow, now that it is actually becoming available to some hardy pioneers, here's a couple of questions in my first post:

- Functionality: When I read a book, I only need to flip pages, which is handled by the bar... So is there a way to have fullscreen view of the content, without distracting assorted icons wasting valuable screen estate? In which viewers? (I'm mostly interested in the HTML viewer, though)

- HTML viewer: I think this has come up before, but which version of HTML is the viewer supporting? (HTML 4.01, XHTML & CSS 1.0, CSS2.0 ?) And I too am very interested in what level of JavaScript support is provided!

P.

bingle · 07-14-2006, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tribble

Oh yes, after 7 hours of excessive use, the battery was quite low. Didnt try to see after what time it dies totally, but put it back on the line. I'll tell you how long till the battery is fully charged again. (Manual says about 2 hours)

So that's not exactly 7500 page turns... (Unless it was *very* excessive use ;-)) I assume the power drain is due to things like the wireless and other background processes running. Is there any way to turn that stuff off, so that the only power drain is page changing? One of the big draws of eink for me is the idea that it's only using power under active use.

Or is that something that's coming with the eventual power management update?

Thanks for all the info you early adopters have been providing... Consider it karma to make up for getting nifty devices before the rest of us ;-)

CommanderROR · 07-14-2006, 07:19 PM

@bingle

The power management is not really implemented at all right now...just minimal stuff.
The next two updates are supposed to implement that finally, but they've delayed it before...maybe it's harder to do than they thought.
the pageturn count is supposed to reach over 10000 in the final software according to iRex. However, you can't really compare pageturns to actual operational time. If the device uses power between pageturns then that could reduce the number of availiable pageturns. I'm looking forward to seeing what the finaly software will bring in terms of power management.

Tribble got 7 hours out of his device with lots of scribbling on the screen and stuff, so that's pretty good actuallyfor a device with little to no Power management.

I have one question:
Does anyone know the .xeb file format? There is one "test-book" on my device that works really well. It's "wuthering heigts" and my Pc identifies the file as .xeb. Bookmarks seem to work there, and the viewer seems to be a lot more advanced than the others (PDf and html) on the device.

Anyone know the format and how it can be created? I believe i've seen that file format somewhere beforem but I just can't recall where and google doesn't reveal much...or maybe i'm just too tired to search properly...

CommanderROR · 07-14-2006, 07:36 PM

Hey!
I just notice that you can even annotate in .xeb books...but still couldn't find the format anywhere...maybe that is where all the work went...a proprietary format???

Pitchfork · 07-14-2006, 09:13 PM

I have found some references to the xeb format using Google. One is a program for Pocket PC that supposedly can read the format.
http://www.teamonesoft.com/en/Products6.htm

Here is a device that apparently also can read the format
http://www.foundertech.com/product/ebooknew.asp

I even found a link to the Apabi site that had something about xeb, but unfortunately it was dead. However the same connection to Apabi Reader can be found here I think (not that good at Chinese)

http://microwolf.net/bbs/dispbbs.asp...D=28147&skin=1

I must admit that I thought Irex were not ready with Apabi support, and that it only would be for the asian market.

Pitchfork · 07-14-2006, 09:24 PM

Just found this tool for XEB files called XEB Publisher. Not tried it as it is not in English, but thought I would post the link anyway.
http://www.softsea.net/soft/106950.htm

wiljo · 07-14-2006, 09:27 PM

hm... googling around... I am not sure (yet), but it could be the "eXtensible eBook" format - which would then be an "open" format....
hmmmmm....
I'll look around some more. sounds interesting....

g'night

wiljo

07-14-2006, 03:33 PM	#99
allovertheglobe Grumpy Old Man Posts: 267 Karma: 30194 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: L.A., Euro ex-pat Device: Kobo, Nook Classic,Color,ST/Glow, iRex DR1000, Sony 505, REB1100&1200	A couple of questions The iRex Iliad... I have followed it for quite a while now, and have not often seen so much written with so little actual information available Anyhow, now that it is actually becoming available to some hardy pioneers, here's a couple of questions in my first post: - Functionality: When I read a book, I only need to flip pages, which is handled by the bar... So is there a way to have fullscreen view of the content, without distracting assorted icons wasting valuable screen estate? In which viewers? (I'm mostly interested in the HTML viewer, though) - HTML viewer: I think this has come up before, but which version of HTML is the viewer supporting? (HTML 4.01, XHTML & CSS 1.0, CSS2.0 ?) And I too am very interested in what level of JavaScript support is provided! P.

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07-14-2006, 02:59 PM	#92
tribble iLiad Maniac Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony)	A portscan (wireless) revealed only 2 open ports. 25 (smtp) and 110 (pop3). Connecting via telnet doesnt reveal much, not normal smtp or pop3. I guess Wireshark will tell us more during iDs connection.

07-14-2006, 03:02 PM	#94
arivero Guru Posts: 607 Karma: 2157 Join Date: Oct 2005 Device: NCR3125, Nokia 770,...	Hmm another trivial question: what does it happen if you attach a USB keyboard (eg from a Macintosh) and restart the machine? I do not really expect a console to appear because the eink display is considered too slow and developers just use an extenal terminal connection. But who knows. Perhaps you can fill notes by typing.

07-14-2006, 03:15 PM	#97
tribble iLiad Maniac Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony)	pop3 on port 25 is a server, you dont need that to fetch mails. And the servers are not answering like normal smtp or pop3 would @aviero: some javascript seems to work. Browser seems based on nescape 5.0

07-14-2006, 07:19 PM	#101
CommanderROR eink fanatic Posts: 2,022 Karma: 4924 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Device: STAReBOOK, iRex Iliad, Sony 505, Kindle 2	@bingle The power management is not really implemented at all right now...just minimal stuff. The next two updates are supposed to implement that finally, but they've delayed it before...maybe it's harder to do than they thought. the pageturn count is supposed to reach over 10000 in the final software according to iRex. However, you can't really compare pageturns to actual operational time. If the device uses power between pageturns then that could reduce the number of availiable pageturns. I'm looking forward to seeing what the finaly software will bring in terms of power management. Tribble got 7 hours out of his device with lots of scribbling on the screen and stuff, so that's pretty good actuallyfor a device with little to no Power management. I have one question: Does anyone know the .xeb file format? There is one "test-book" on my device that works really well. It's "wuthering heigts" and my Pc identifies the file as .xeb. Bookmarks seem to work there, and the viewer seems to be a lot more advanced than the others (PDf and html) on the device. Anyone know the format and how it can be created? I believe i've seen that file format somewhere beforem but I just can't recall where and google doesn't reveal much...or maybe i'm just too tired to search properly...

07-14-2006, 07:36 PM	#102
CommanderROR eink fanatic Posts: 2,022 Karma: 4924 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Device: STAReBOOK, iRex Iliad, Sony 505, Kindle 2	Hey! I just notice that you can even annotate in .xeb books...but still couldn't find the format anywhere...maybe that is where all the work went...a proprietary format???

07-14-2006, 09:13 PM	#103
Pitchfork Connoisseur Posts: 98 Karma: 31 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Spain Device: Iliad/Ipaq 6340	I have found some references to the xeb format using Google. One is a program for Pocket PC that supposedly can read the format. http://www.teamonesoft.com/en/Products6.htm Here is a device that apparently also can read the format http://www.foundertech.com/product/ebooknew.asp I even found a link to the Apabi site that had something about xeb, but unfortunately it was dead. However the same connection to Apabi Reader can be found here I think (not that good at Chinese) http://microwolf.net/bbs/dispbbs.asp...D=28147&skin=1 I must admit that I thought Irex were not ready with Apabi support, and that it only would be for the asian market.

07-14-2006, 09:24 PM	#104
Pitchfork Connoisseur Posts: 98 Karma: 31 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Spain Device: Iliad/Ipaq 6340	Just found this tool for XEB files called XEB Publisher. Not tried it as it is not in English, but thought I would post the link anyway. http://www.softsea.net/soft/106950.htm

07-14-2006, 09:27 PM	#105
wiljo Member Posts: 23 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2006 Device: iLiad	hm... googling around... I am not sure (yet), but it could be the "eXtensible eBook" format - which would then be an "open" format.... hmmmmm.... I'll look around some more. sounds interesting.... g'night wiljo

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