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Let me illustrate my opinion on them with a picture:
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What ever is wrong with Wikipedia? It's a wonderful resource, IMHO.
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It's more to do with the way Wikipedia is run (which is a farce), Harry, than it's value as a resource (which is considerable, given a pinch of salt)
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I also find it incredible that you think that returning 30 books to be a pretty low number. Yet you think that more than one book refund a month is a low number? At this point, it seems you are saying that people geting refunds on basically every book they purchase. After all if 30 is a pretty low number then they are likely getting at least two refunds a month. I know the members here do read more than the average person, but I don't know that many people who buy more than two books every single month. Of course this is assuming that they purchased starting in Nov. 2007 when the Kindle first came out. Most people did not get one in the first month or even the first 6 monthes. So the number per month refunded would be far higher. |
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I know you were just trying to come up with a big number. But the truth is that any number that you make up to show that it would be reasonable, is just to high for a person to have had actual problems to justify returning the ebook. After all, they can check a lot of information about the book before buying. You can check the formatting, see if you like it, read reviews from Amazon and other customers, see certain information like if text to speech is enabled. That should tell you really if you want to buy the book or not. So I really can't see returning 30 or more of the ebooks. |
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Since Amazon is the company being discussed, other companies not providing a sample doesn't seem relevant to this discussion IMO. I will agree that they should tell you up front which format the ebook is in. However, since the Kindle can read it regardless of the format and you are purchasing it to use on the Kindle I don't see a problem with it. I realize that I am in the minority here, but I have no problem DRM. While your listed reasons for being able to return ebooks may seem reasonable to some people here, I don't think that that they are. You start off with bad formatting and include things that basically would allow every single book to be returned after reading. There is no way that a company can survive doing that. I challenge you to find a decent length book that doesn't have some sort of missing punctuation at some point. Then you can decide that you don't like the font??? I would agree that if the file is corrupt you should at the company's discretion either receive a refund or a new copy. Of course that assumes that the file was always corrupt. If it gets corrupted at a later point, then it is the same as if you had misplaced a regular pbook. |
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Of course not, if you're completely willing to accept the limitations of print books. I, for one, think your view is limited and that ebooks need not accept the same limitations as the older medium. (Not to mention that for one, returns are cheaper. Much, much cheaper.)
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I've bought I dunno, 30? 50? Kindle books and returned 3. One was supposed to be an encyclopedia and it was not possible to pick out a single coherent entry--not a single coherent *paragraph* even. It was cheap and old and I wasn't expecting perfection, but seriously--this read like a 2 column book that had been OCRed as one column or something. The second was Topaz and had actual pieces of the letters missing. The third was "optimized for DX" which I thought might work on K2, but which didn't. I apologized, returned it, and bought the paper version, which cost more, but has illustrations I can actually read. It was a pity because I really wanted that book Right Away and I had to wait Days for it--it was like being back in the 20th century (whimper). Obviously I don't agree that there should be no returns--I have returned paper books for having chunks of content missing and the like, and I expect to be able to do the same with e-books. On the other hand, Amazon is a bookstore, not a library--if you want to decide which of four technical books is your favorite, you ask for them, by interlibrary loan if necessary, read them, *then* buy the one you like best. I'm not surprised Amazon put the brakes on in this case. And regarding Amazon having one-click turned on for Kindles to deliberately cause customers to accidentally buy the wrong book--I have a hard time squaring this with the page that immediately pops up when you buy a book on the Kindle that gives you the option of canceling the order. If they wanted to make you pay for books you accidentally bought, I'd think they wouldn't say "are you sure you bought the right book? You can cancel this order right now if you like" every time you purchase. |
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Anything formatting problems that'd get a failing grade on a 10-year-old's schoolwork should be considered returnable. Fonts--most ebooks are made with readable fonts; I've not seen any ebooks with ISBNs that had troublesome fonts. (Have seen homemade ones that were atrocious.) However, ebooks are growing, and I expect publishers to try all sorts of ways to make themselves stand out. Some print books are made with hard-to-read (for me) fonts; either tiny and cramped, or too scripty, or thin and spidery. Most formats of ebook don't have enough font variety to have these problems, but with Topaz and some PDFs, it's possible to get an ebook with fonts that aren't readable. PDFs can be fixed (painfully, by file conversion, which isn't always possible without DRM removal), but Topaz can't. |
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