Calibre v8.0 kepub features?

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by .tycho

So can you please check if hyphenation is working in your KEPUBs?

Unfortunately I can't, as I disable hyphenation in the css.

[.tycho]

Originally Posted by DNSB

Since I read in left justified (AKA ragged right), hyphens are not of much interest. I did switch one ePub to justified and there were hyphens along with lines with wide word gaps and interword spacing. I'm back to left justified until micro-justification becomes a commonplace for ereaders. See micro-typography for more information.

Have you tried going to the Hypenation tab in the KoboTouch driver configuration and changing the values there to match the ones used by the KTE driver.

So, I know this may make we weird -- I read ragged right, but also with hyphenation. I installed 7.26 with KTE, and hyphenation is working again. But when I send a KEPUB with 8.1.1 and KT, hyphenation is gone. Anyone have any thoughts about what could be going wrong? Do you see hyphens only with justification, and not ragged right? Maybe that's the issue...

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by .tycho

So, I know this may make we weird -- I read ragged right, but also with hyphenation. I installed 7.26 with KTE, and hyphenation is working again. But when I send a KEPUB with 8.1.1 and KT, hyphenation is gone. Anyone have any thoughts about what could be going wrong? Do you see hyphens only with justification, and not ragged right? Maybe that's the issue...

When I tested a kepub with justification to see if I saw hyphens, I checked Enable/disable hyphenation in KEPUB books, set the minimum word length to hyphenate to 5, minimum before and after were left at 3 and maximum consecutive was set to 3.

I have only seen hyphens with justified text so not sure if you would see them with ragged right save for pathological cases such as word that was longer than the line length.

[.tycho]

Originally Posted by DNSB

I have only seen hyphens with justified text so not sure if you would see them with ragged right save for pathological cases such as word that was longer than the line length.

That's right, and it's how I just like to read. With ragged right, I prefer that any words with 8+ characters that would reach the end of line are hyphenated. But I don't know why it's not working now with 8.1.1.

[gbm]

Hyphenation is still not working with 8.1.1, but using polish book add soft hyphens works very well with kpub.

bernie
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Originally Posted by .tycho

That's right, and it's how I just like to read. With ragged right, I prefer that any words with 8+ characters that would reach the end of line are hyphenated. But I don't know why it's not working now with 8.1.1.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by gbm

Hyphenation is still not working with 8.1.1, but using polish book add soft hyphens works very well with kpub.

bernie
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Do the soft hyphens cause a problem with searching?

[gbm]

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bernie

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Do the soft hyphens cause a problem with searching?

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by gbm

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bernie

If you search for words with soft hyphens, does the search work?

[gbm]

Oh why oh why would I need to ever search for words.

bernie

Originally Posted by JSWolf

If you search for words with soft hyphens, does the search work?

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by gbm

Oh why oh why would I need to ever search for words.

bernie

I do it often. Sometimes a character is introduced and not appearing again until later in the book/series, and I want to refresh my memory by looking up where they were first mentioned. Or I don't remember an important detail all that well and want to read it over again.

I guess if you have very good memory, you never need to use search, but I don't.

[.tycho]

Searching is one of the main reasons I switched to an e-reader. How can I remember everything in a 1000+ page book!?

[Dal Bhat]

Originally Posted by gbm

Oh why oh why would I need to ever search for words.

Oh why oh why would you think one wouldn't?

[kovidgoyal]

See if this fixes it:
https://github.com/kovidgoyal/calibr...48668f37968ca6

[.tycho]

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

See if this fixes it:
https://github.com/kovidgoyal/calibr...48668f37968ca6

Is there a way to download the latest commit as a compiled binary for macOS? I couldn't find one, so I cloned the repo using git and ran "calibre-debug -g", which showed the version as "8.1.1*", which I'm pretty sure tells me I'm running the latest commit.

I sent a KEPUB to my Kobo, checked how it looks, and what do I see? Hyphens at the end of lines!!

I opened a chapter to view the code, and here's what I now see:

    <style type="text/css" id="kobostylehacks">div#book-inner { margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0; }</style>
    <style type="text/css" id="kepubify-extra-css">
* {
    /* Vendor-prefixed CSS properties for hyphenation. Keep -webkit first since
     * some user agents also recognize -webkit properties and will apply them.
     */
    -webkit-hyphens: auto;
    -webkit-hyphenate-limit-after: 5;
    -webkit-hyphenate-limit-before: 3;
    -webkit-hyphenate-limit-chars: 8 3 5;
    -webkit-hyphenate-limit-lines: 2;

    /* CSS4 standard properties for hyphenation. If a property isn't represented
     * in the standard, don't put a vendor-prefixed property for it above.
     */
    hyphens: auto;
    hyphenate-limit-chars: 8 3 5;
    hyphenate-limit-lines: 2;
    hyphenate-limit-last: page;
}

h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6, td {
    -webkit-hyphens: none !important;
    hyphens: none !important;
}
</style>

So I think you fixed it!! It looks like adding the hyphenation under 'kepubify-extra-css' was the trick.

Thank you so much, Kovid!! Sorry to be such a bother, now I shall return to reading Dan Moren's The Nova Incident...

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by .tycho

Is there a way to download the latest commit as a compiled binary for macOS? I couldn't find one, so I cloned the repo using git and ran "calibre-debug -g", which showed the version as "8.1.1*", which I'm pretty sure tells me I'm running the latest commit.

I sent a KEPUB to my Kobo, checked how it looks, and what do I see? Hyphens at the end of lines!!

I opened a chapter to view the code, and here's what I now see:

    <style type="text/css" id="kobostylehacks">div#book-inner { margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0; }</style>
    <style type="text/css" id="kepubify-extra-css">
* {
    /* Vendor-prefixed CSS properties for hyphenation. Keep -webkit first since
     * some user agents also recognize -webkit properties and will apply them.
     */
    -webkit-hyphens: auto;
    -webkit-hyphenate-limit-after: 5;
    -webkit-hyphenate-limit-before: 3;
    -webkit-hyphenate-limit-chars: 8 3 5;
    -webkit-hyphenate-limit-lines: 2;

    /* CSS4 standard properties for hyphenation. If a property isn't represented
     * in the standard, don't put a vendor-prefixed property for it above.
     */
    hyphens: auto;
    hyphenate-limit-chars: 8 3 5;
    hyphenate-limit-lines: 2;
    hyphenate-limit-last: page;
}

h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6, td {
    -webkit-hyphens: none !important;
    hyphens: none !important;
}
</style>

So I think you fixed it!! It looks like adding the hyphenation under 'kepubify-extra-css' was the trick.

Thank you so much, Kovid!! Sorry to be such a bother, now I shall return to reading Dan Moren's The Nova Incident...

@kovidgoyal would it be possible to please put the hyphenation code into it's own CSS (aka hyphenation.css) so we don't have all of that code bloat? Thanks.