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Old 07-18-2021, 09:27 PM   #91
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...the Kindle typesetting is no crappier than the kepub typesetting on a Kobo.
Kepub typesetting is a whole other thing. I just don't understand why Kobo doesn't put some effort into improving it.

I can improve it using the patches and hyphen dictionary. But why doesn't Kobo put some effort into making their own format look better than ePub?
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Old 07-18-2021, 09:31 PM   #92
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Kepub typesetting is a whole other thing. I just don't understand why Kobo doesn't put some effort into improving it.

I can improve it using the patches and hyphen dictionary. But why doesn't Kobo put some effort into making their own format look better than ePub?
Yeah, same. I would gladly ditch RMDSK then. Perhaps they don't bother because most users don't care.
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Old 07-18-2021, 09:34 PM   #93
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Or you could simply dump justification and read ragged right. No need for hyphens and I've preferred it for decades. Until and if, an ereader properly implements micro-justification, "text-align: justified" has no place in my reading life.
Ragged right is even worse than hyphenation. The horror! It gets disabled immediately in every book in my library that specifies it in the css.

(Some people have really strange tastes, I have to say... )
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Old 07-18-2021, 11:17 PM   #94
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I've never cared about formatting much. As a matter of fact, I don't even notice it usually. Whatever comes by default in most books is perfectly fine with me. I did have one book once that had a font I didn't like, or maybe it was too small. And I couldn't change that using the normal controls on my Kindle. I thought, "What the heck?" I did some research and found that was some setting the publisher could make. I learned how to override/disable that in Calibre after a bit of research on the web. So I fixed that book and re-sent it to my Kindle. But other than that on instance, I can't say I've ever noticed a problem in formatting that I couldn't change to my liking using just the controls on the Kindle itself. I guess I'm not as picky as others (I'm not as hard core reader as most here are, I'm more the slow, recreational reader type).
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Old 07-18-2021, 11:32 PM   #95
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Or you could simply dump justification and read ragged right. No need for hyphens and I've preferred it for decades. Until and if, an ereader properly implements micro-justification, "text-align: justified" has no place in my reading life.
I made the switch earlier this year, and haven't looked back.I read in KOReader, and I think there was one book recently that was stuck justified, enough to remind me why I switched to RR
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Yeah, same. I would gladly ditch RMDSK then. Perhaps they don't bother because most users don't care.
Please excuse my ignorance. "RMDSK" is very often mentioned. I have tried to search for it to no avail. What does it mean ?
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Ragged right is even worse than hyphenation. The horror! It gets disabled immediately in every book in my library that specifies it in the css.
The horror! I change all my ebooks to be ragged right.

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(Some people have really strange tastes, I have to say... )
You certainly do.

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Old 07-19-2021, 06:24 AM   #98
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Kepub typesetting is a whole other thing. I just don't understand why Kobo doesn't put some effort into improving it.

I can improve it using the patches and hyphen dictionary. But why doesn't Kobo put some effort into making their own format look better than ePub?
They probably don't because most people don't care, they simply want to read thier books.

I don't pay the slightest attention to typesetting. All I care about is that the text is large enough for me to read.
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Old 07-19-2021, 06:32 AM   #99
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Please excuse my ignorance. "RMDSK" is very often mentioned. I have tried to search for it to no avail. What does it mean ?
It's the epub reader on a Kobo. Kobos have two reading applications, one for kepubs and one for epubs. If you sideload an epub to a Kobo, you'll get the Adobe RMDSK, if you sideload a kepub or download one directly from the Kobo store, you'll get the kepub reader.
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Old 07-19-2021, 06:52 AM   #100
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I made the switch earlier this year, and haven't looked back.I read in KOReader, and I think there was one book recently that was stuck justified, enough to remind me why I switched to RR
May I ask why you prefer KOReader? I tried it, but didn't feel it was that much better than the native readers (other than customization options, of course - which I don't need, as Calibre and patches give me all the customization I want).
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Have you ever actually spent any amount of time using the Paperwhite as a reader?

Sometimes I'm tempted to buy a Kindle, just to play around with it. But stuff like requiring .KFX for the nicer typesetting (and the ads, don't forget the ads) keeps me away. For my purposes, I'm not sure that even a brand new Paperwhite would be any nicer than my 2015 6" Glowlight Plus.
I have used the PW3 and I do find the firmware fairly simple. Not enough useful features and the ones there are too simple. Amazon designs the firmware for children.
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Yeah, same. I would gladly ditch RMDSK then. Perhaps they don't bother because most users don't care.
We don't need to dump RMSDK. We need to dump Access and install the latest RMSDK. Then we'd have the better typesetting along with ePub 3. That would do no problem.
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Please excuse my ignorance. "RMDSK" is very often mentioned. I have tried to search for it to no avail. What does it mean ?
RMSDK is the underlying software for ADE. It's what Kobo uses to read ePub and for the ePub DRM.

If RMSDK was dumped, we'd lose the ability to borrow most eBooks from Overdrive.

The problem is that the version of RMSDK used by Kobo is not the latest version. Kobo is not using the latest version (I think) because if they did, then there would be no need to Access (KePub) as the latest RMSDK does support ePub 3.
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RMSDK is the underlying software for ADE. It's what Kobo uses to read ePub and for the ePub DRM.
No, the "RMSDK" is the "Adobe Reader Mobile Software Development Kit". It is libraries that Adobe licenses to people who want to develop ePub reading software and it enables them to support the Adobe DRM. Not just Kobo use it. Lots of ereader devices and apps use it.
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If RMSDK was dumped, we'd lose the ability to borrow most eBooks from Overdrive.

The problem is that the version of RMSDK used by Kobo is not the latest version. Kobo is not using the latest version (I think) because if they did, then there would be no need to Access (KePub) as the latest RMSDK does support ePub 3.
That's almost as funny as your last suggestion for why Kobo haven't moved to the latest version of the RMDSK. And, I'm still wondering if you know what version Kobo is using, what the latest version is, and what the changes in it are.
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No, the "RMSDK" is the "Adobe Reader Mobile Software Development Kit". It is libraries that Adobe licenses to people who want to develop ePub reading software and it enables them to support the Adobe DRM. Not just Kobo use it. Lots of ereader devices and apps use it.


That's almost as funny as your last suggestion for why Kobo haven't moved to the latest version of the RMDSK. And, I'm still wondering if you know what version Kobo is using, what the latest version is, and what the changes in it are.
Been a little while since I checked and I don't currently have a Kobo anymore to check but the ePub renderer was essentially broken for Japanese vertical writing books but the same book works fine in Adobe Digital Editions 4+. And has other issues with ePub 3 content. So either Kobo's RMSDK implementation is horrible or it's not using the same level as ADE 4.
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