Neptune Crossing - Jeffrey A. Carver - Page 7

bwaldron · 08-27-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by starrigger

Why no .lit version? Well, at some point, I just threw up my hands and said, I can't keep doing this forever. New book to write, other books to convert, life to live, etc.

Another reason why a universal format such as ePub is a good thing.

llasram · 08-27-2008, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bwaldron

Another reason why a universal format such as ePub is a good thing.

Speaking of which, I've got an EPUB version of Neptune Crossing I finished most of yesterday while my home Internet was down. **crosses fingers that it's back up when I get home this evening.** I'm doing a final read-through to make sure everything is consistent, then I'll send it on up to Jeffery.

Robotech_Master · 08-27-2008, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bwaldron

Another reason why a universal format such as ePub is a good thing.

The problem with a universal format, however, is for programs that use their own formats, the universal format is only as good as the conversion program used to convert that format into that program's own format.

Format conversion is somewhat iffy at the best of times. I'm still annoyed about Stanza throwing out all text formatting when it makes its own ePub files.

Taylor514ce · 08-27-2008, 03:40 PM

True, but for e-books to move forward, there has to be a common, universal "starting point", which ideally is also the end-point. EPUB is the closest we have. We need to be removing barriers, real or imagined. Publishers shouldn't have to pick which of 5 different formats they'll produce. They should produce plain-vanilla EPUB and hand that over to booksellers. If the bookseller needs to add DRM, they can. If they need to convert to another format, let the onus be upon them (or savvy end users).

starrigger · 08-27-2008, 05:08 PM

Speaking of formats, the Sony LRF is now up, thanks to Jon. The Mobipocket with table of contents and proper artist credit is now up, thanks to Dennis. And...am I forgetting any? The PDB now has a table of contents, thanks to Robo. (My head is starting to spin. I'm having trouble remembering who is helping me with which format, and which new versions have come in.)

Just for the fun of it, here is a summary of my downloads per format to date:

PDF - 1522
PRC - 525
html - 303
PDF2 - 220 (recent addition--optim. for PDA)
RTF - 145
PDB - 123
LRF - just put up

Caveat: I have no way to track repeated downloads, so no doubt some of the numbers are inflated, in terms of persons downloading.

PDF has been way out front from the start, but PRC has been closing the gap somewhat.

JSWolf · 08-27-2008, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by starrigger

Jon, I have the new version and will check it out shortly. Will consider your idea of a zip file with both margin/no-margin versions. That might make sense. (Though so far on this board, at least, it's sounded almost unanimous in favor of margins.)

I'll send you the no margin edition later today and you can choose what to do with it.

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Why no .lit version? Well, at some point, I just threw up my hands and said, I can't keep doing this forever. New book to write, other books to convert, life to live, etc. I was partly guided by a list of format popularity that I saw somewhere--manybooks, maybe? And indeed, my downloads seem to follow that pattern: pdf by far the most popular, followed by prc, then html, then pdb and rtf. And soon, we'll see about lrf.

Would you like a Mobipocket (PRC) with ToC & Cover page? I can easily do it.

JSWolf · 08-27-2008, 05:27 PM

In making LIT, how do I make LIT that has a proper Cover & Proper ToC?

starrigger · 08-27-2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Would you like a Mobipocket (PRC) with ToC & Cover page? I can easily do it.

Dennis did that already, and it's on the air right now.

DMcCunney · 08-27-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by starrigger

Dennis did that already, and it's on the air right now.

Unfortunately, I think you posted the wrong version. I just grabbed it and it isn't showing the ToC, though the cover is present. I'll resend in a few minutes. Please take down the one you have.
______
Dennis

starrigger · 08-27-2008, 05:54 PM

No need to resend. I know I've got it here. Give me a minute.

starrigger · 08-27-2008, 06:00 PM

FTP indicated the right file was there, but I reuploaded anyway. Give it a try.

bwaldron · 08-27-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DMcCunney

Unfortunately, I think you posted the wrong version. I just grabbed it and it isn't showing the ToC, though the cover is present. I'll resend in a few minutes. Please take down the one you have.

I downloaded it a little while before you posted, and got the TOC fine.

Strange!

DMcCunney · 08-27-2008, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bwaldron

I downloaded it a little while before you posted, and got the TOC fine.

Strange!

It works for you? Curiouser and curiouser. The copy I grabbed from Jeff's site does not display the ToC, in Mobi Reader on the desktop or on my PDA.

The copy I emailed him does. There is a version mismatch somewhere.

EDIT: and after downloading again and first removing the book from the desktop reader library, then importing, I get what appears to be the correct copy. Sheesh...
______
Dennis

bwaldron · 08-27-2008, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DMcCunney

It works for you? Curiouser and curiouser. The copy I grabbed from Jeff's site does not display the ToC, in Mobi Reader on the desktop or on my PDA.

Yep, the TOC works fine (desktop & Cybook).

rhadin · 08-27-2008, 06:54 PM

Jeff, I just tried to download the Sony version and received a page not found error. If I try to download the Mobi version, there is no problem.

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08-27-2008, 03:40 PM	#94
Taylor514ce Actively passive. Posts: 2,042 Karma: 478376 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: US Device: Sony PRS-505/LC	True, but for e-books to move forward, there has to be a common, universal "starting point", which ideally is also the end-point. EPUB is the closest we have. We need to be removing barriers, real or imagined. Publishers shouldn't have to pick which of 5 different formats they'll produce. They should produce plain-vanilla EPUB and hand that over to booksellers. If the bookseller needs to add DRM, they can. If they need to convert to another format, let the onus be upon them (or savvy end users).

08-27-2008, 05:08 PM	#95
starrigger Jeffrey A. Carver Posts: 1,355 Karma: 1107383 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Massachusetts, USA Device: Lenovo Yoga Tab Plus, Droid phone, Nook HD+	Speaking of formats, the Sony LRF is now up, thanks to Jon. The Mobipocket with table of contents and proper artist credit is now up, thanks to Dennis. And...am I forgetting any? The PDB now has a table of contents, thanks to Robo. (My head is starting to spin. I'm having trouble remembering who is helping me with which format, and which new versions have come in.) Just for the fun of it, here is a summary of my downloads per format to date: PDF - 1522 PRC - 525 html - 303 PDF2 - 220 (recent addition--optim. for PDA) RTF - 145 PDB - 123 LRF - just put up Caveat: I have no way to track repeated downloads, so no doubt some of the numbers are inflated, in terms of persons downloading. PDF has been way out front from the start, but PRC has been closing the gap somewhat.

08-27-2008, 05:27 PM	#97
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,786 Karma: 146391129 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	In making LIT, how do I make LIT that has a proper Cover & Proper ToC?

08-27-2008, 05:54 PM	#100
starrigger Jeffrey A. Carver Posts: 1,355 Karma: 1107383 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Massachusetts, USA Device: Lenovo Yoga Tab Plus, Droid phone, Nook HD+	No need to resend. I know I've got it here. Give me a minute.

08-27-2008, 06:00 PM	#101
starrigger Jeffrey A. Carver Posts: 1,355 Karma: 1107383 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Massachusetts, USA Device: Lenovo Yoga Tab Plus, Droid phone, Nook HD+	FTP indicated the right file was there, but I reuploaded anyway. Give it a try.

08-27-2008, 06:54 PM	#105
rhadin Literacy = Understanding Posts: 4,833 Karma: 59674358 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The World of Books Device: Nook, Nook Tablet	Jeff, I just tried to download the Sony version and received a page not found error. If I try to download the Mobi version, there is no problem.

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