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"Many situations" is too much imho. If you use <q>, <em>, <cite>, <blockquote> and the correct CSS for cases like "dream sequence", the <i> use has to be very rare.
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Mostly an author's intention for using italic is no more than convention, and because it usefully prevents say book titles being read as part of the text. From an editorial perspective, 'house style' dictates use of italic, and this is mostly based on books such as The Chicago Manual of Style. It makes sense in many of its proclamations, but to suppose the author has any degree of intention beyond house style is reading more into it than is there, and also providing a level of invisible annotation that is dependent on the annotator being almost godlike in their dedication to tagging at a granularity that the reader simply supplies naturally (do I need a Latin phrase tagged as Latin, I can see it's Latin). As for translation of phrases, ebook software can do that if the author has been so 1950s as not to do it in the text.
To me this obsession with micro-data seems to be solely for the collation of automatic lists, which are only as good as the annotator. And who is the annotator? The author or someone in an ebook production house? Frankly, speaking as a print editor, much italic in print books is not necessarily supplied by the author in the first place, but rather by the editor ensuring that the typescript conforms to house style. Mostly the only italic of importance supplied by the author is in fiction and is limited to the odd word of emphasis. The rest is house style. If book titles are italicised at such-and-such a publisher, they will be, regardless of how the author presented them. If the preference is for titles in inverted commas and not italic, that's how they will be done, even if the author italicised them. Last edited by bookman156; 04-04-2016 at 11:38 AM. |
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I also don't see what the point of providing a dream class div is when <em> is perfectly fine. Although editorially mere italic or emphasised voice may not be enough to distinguish a dream sequence from a non-dream sequence and some discussion between the author and editor would doubtless ensue over that point.
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I never think "italic" or "em". An "em" could be a bold in red color, if there is a reason to use that color and that weight. So, if a chapter is a dream, why I have to emphasize every single paragraph? It is a dream, and I mark the chapter as dream.
Typographic is in CSS, not in XML. IMHO. About the microdata, I think microdata are more important in ebook that in web. Microdata (or semantic markup) is the best way to give life to your information: index, query, relationship between text and graph, questions, gamification, animation and more. |
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If an author wants to make it clear that text is a dream the easiest way is just to title the chapter accordingly. When in doubt, spell it out. But perhaps the author preferred that the reader didn't realise it was a dream until the character woke up, and was annoyed with his simple-minded editor for using italic.
Life is a dream. We don't italicise that. Perhaps we haven't realised... Whether you think italic or bold red is neither here nor there, all you're doing is distinguishing one thing from another thing. That's the bottom line. Last edited by bookman156; 04-04-2016 at 11:52 AM. |
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Personally, I wake up every day and thank all the gods that the old <blink> tag that used to give you flashing text is no longer supported. I shudder to think how it could be abused in some ebooks. Large red flashing titles, perhaps?
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Well, I don't think of it as 'micro-data' as such, but of course any book that would benefit from a good index should have one, and all footnotes should be hyperlinked both ways. But beyond that, it seems like dredging sludge for bits of broken bottle.
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I mean I italicise or emphasise to call out a distinction. I italicise a book title so the whole of the title can be seen at once and I don't have to wonder where it ends and where the text as such carries on. Equally, if I emphasise a word in speech I mean to mimic just the way it would be said or to give some alternative meaning by the emphasis that wouldn't be there if it wasn't emphasised. But in both cases what has been done is simply distinguishing one textual item from its textual background. The purpose is inherent in each case from the context provided by the words and does not need to be invisibly second-guessed as a matter of routine by an ebook production company.
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Actually we have some magazine in ebook and paper. An geopolitical one, one talking about literature for children and one for handicap. When we cite books, articles, movies, comics, historical events, we use a markup that allow us to build several interactive index, or glossary. I don't think this is a "dredging sludge for bits of broken bottle", but offer different ways to the reader to access the magazine, search information, have a global idea of what the magazine is talking about, move from one article to another coherent with the first one.
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