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(But with that selective enabling of hyphenation of certain words you are dangerously close to fixed-format, if you ask me...) Quote:
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This Fell font I'm now using is "bigger", though, so maybe I'll try just shrinking it down a bit, say to 85% or 90% or something. That would probably do the trick. ![]() |
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![]() What I mean is that you want too much control on the typesetting, and that's something that the readers (both software and human) should have a say on. With a real typesetting engine like (La)TeX, you can control on a global scale how much hyphenation you want, or how much whitespace you allow. I dream of a day when my ebook reader will let me set up something similar and decide, given my preferred font family and size, what kind of hyphenation I find acceptable (maybe not more that two consecutive hyphenated lines, maybe not fewer than 4 characters from a word left in a line, maybe only if the word spaces are stretched to 1.5 times their natural size...). And I being an idealist after all, keep writing my ebooks so that they'll work in such a day. It seems CSS3 at some point offered that kind of control, but not at the current stage. Prince does offer more options, if you want a PDF. |
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You know I love ya, but, dude: we already have PDF. The more "geeky" reading apps are approaching this type of customization, but what you guys have to think about is, the less the reader (human) can customize the end-product to be what THEY want, the more likely they are to bitch about it. We already hear about readers who want to be able to change absolutely everything (visit the Calibre forum on any given day for a sampling)--font, font-size, hyphenation, no-hyphenation, margins, no margins...the closer you get to "forcing" the reader to use what you want, the further away you get from younger and younger readers, all of whom want to be able to manipulate the text to their unique requirements. Just sayin'. Hitch |
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Right now the younger uses don't predominate as one might guess.
http://jem499.blogspot.com/2012/08/t...ographics.html The demographics cut so many different ways I am glad I don't have to decide what to release for hardware. The academics want to lock epubs into standard book designs while the students want to customize everything! Seems like no matter how you try to make it useable for everyone, you are bound to leave someone out in the cold. Last edited by mrmikel; 11-05-2013 at 06:32 AM. |
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![]() Well, as I've said before, with this current project I was much more concerned with trying to get my book to look the way that I wanted it to than I was in sales, but now -- thanks to Jellby and that font set he found -- it would seem that I've come up a way to make it a little more cross-platform compatible. At least, it would seem to work reasonably okay in ADE, too, as an epub, but I haven't yet tried to convert it into MOBI format for amazon -- and it would certainly seem that amazon is the market one would want to reach out to as far as sales go. I don't know the first thing about MOBI format -- any suggestions on where/how to proceed from here in that direction? I know there's a forum here on Calibre, and is that where I would want to start, if only by browsing the archives in there? Pardon my utter ignorance -- I'm really so very new to all this epublishing stuff! ![]() |
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Mobi does not allow for font embedding. So you'll have to do your old part as plain old normal text.
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Now, now, let's not be disingenuous. It's true that PRC, and K7-mobi, does not allow for font-embedding, but K8 formatting does. I know I saw you in a discussion somewhere around here as to what to call a K8-formatted book, but, Amazon calls it a "MOBI" file. There's no such thing, from the input side, as an AZW3 file; that's a Calibre output format meant strictly for reading on one's own device (as it cannot be uploaded at the KDP). K8-formatted books can certainly contain some fonts. It can get very cranky with Type1's (just don't use 'em). Some fonts, particularly Adobe fonts, just won't work, for reasons not quite clear to me. They just don't. I mean, letters "fly" around the page, coming unhinged from whither they should be parked, like something out of a movie. (I think that there's a scene in "Young Sherlock Holmes" which is similar to this, but maybe I'm mis-remembering.) Some letters just don't display. It's a weird thing. However, all that being said, he can always try it. The issue will be a) fallbacks for the blackletter for K7 devices, and b) whether or not the font will display correctly. Much of what was attempted in the ePUB won't work in the MOBI, like trying to force words to stay together, etc. I don't remember everything that was discussed on this book; I know something that seemed to work originally was shown to not work by simply enlarging the font...but he can always just take his ePUB and drop it on KP, and see what happens. It's only a minute or two out of his life. BUT, again, cannot stress this strongly enough: what will you do for the millions of people who have Kindles, Kindle2's and DX'es, that can't display an embedded font? Hitch |
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Well, gee, I was getting so enthused here and now my bubble has been burst.
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But that font issue doesn't seem to be a problem at all with this other, new Fell font, and even though it's nice to make use of that "nowrap" thing, it doesn't totally destroy my work not to have it, and I could live without it. It does seem to be becoming clear, though, that my ebook will look the best iBooks -- at least there's that. Quote:
And I can "just take my epub and drop it" on there, it doesn't have to be converted or anything? I thought it did, that it had to be in MOBI format first. Forgive me, I know so little and sometimes just don't know where to start. After nearly two decades in web design, though, I do understand what you've been stressing, Hitch, about backwards-compatibility and stuff, but the issues with cross-platform compatibility (let alone backwards-compatibility) seem so much more complicated than anything I experienced in web design. That latter experience of mine certainly has helped a lot, but in other respects I feel like I'm starting all over again, from scratch. (Perfect place to insert a chinscratch) ![]() Quote:
![]() I guess while I'm here and asking about amazon, it does seem that my current epub also works in ADE, which I understand is what other non-Kindle readers work in? Where do I go to market it for that platform? Is that, like, Barnes & Noble or something? I'm so clueless about so much, but I don't know where to go from here -- there doesn't seem to be a forum in these forums here specifically for "Okay, now you've designed your first epub that works in iBooks, and here's what to do next, and where to go next", kinda thing. D'oh... ![]() |
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