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Old 01-09-2012, 08:16 PM   #91
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In the nearly 20 years I've been reading Charlie on Usenet and his blog, I've never noted any tendency to accept anything at face value. He is, in fact, a crank. A very outspoken crank who doesn't accept much of anything without something more than "the monkeys that fly out of my butt told me so." Again, I find him far more credible than anybody here. He doesn't speak without knowing what he's talking about.
Great. This means you have a personal opinion on a source that you trust.

Your personal opinion does not apply to the rest of us. We have different sources and different opinions. I think we can express those opinions without you saying we're calling your friend a liar. (Unless someone called Stross out directly as a liar and I missed that. But I saw someone say that industry insiders are generally biased. Which is another thing entirely from liar.)

And if I pull one of my favorite authors out -- or my mum! -- and say I believe them when they say the opposite of what your personal opinion person says, I fully support your decision to be all "yeeeeeeah, I'ma take a pass on that."

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Old 01-10-2012, 12:07 PM   #92
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But I saw someone say that industry insiders are generally biased. Which is another thing entirely from liar.)
Which is different from "I saw someone who is an industry insider say such-and-such"?

How is it that you're doing anything differently than what you're harping at me for doing, exactly?
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Old 01-10-2012, 01:25 PM   #93
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Which is different from "I saw someone who is an industry insider say such-and-such"?

How is it that you're doing anything differently than what you're harping at me for doing, exactly?
I don't even understand this post, so I'm not sure how to respond. Uh, sorry?
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Old 01-10-2012, 03:00 PM   #94
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You've heard that industry insiders are biased. I've heard otherwise. I've named my source, and his writings are extensive and available online. I have no idea where you got your information from. Industry insiders at least have the opportunity to know what they'ure talking about. And you dismiss them without - by your own admission - even having read what they've written on the subject.

I'm done with you.
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Charlie Stross has little reason to lie to advance his publisher's agenda. In fact, quite the contrary.
And he does not say that physical costs are 10% of total.
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I think we can express those opinions without you saying we're calling your friend a liar. (Unless someone called Stross out directly as a liar and I missed that. But I saw someone say that industry insiders are generally biased. Which is another thing entirely from liar.)
taustin at the risk of upsetting your further I think ana was refering to your post #85 where Blue Tyson said that industry insiders were biased and you replied that Stross had no reason to lie.
Her point (and I agree) is that calling someone biased is NOT the same as calling them a liar.
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I no longer really care, and never actually did, since this is not what this thread is about.
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