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Old 09-28-2011, 10:48 PM   #91
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Well, you don't need an actual computer right? Just a device with a non hampered web browser that can open a new window?

So, it appears that the Fire will have a non-neutered full on web browser. I'm thinking that you should be able to check out and download a lib book straight on the Fire via wi-fi and the web browser...

Im not bothered much anyway as I do most book browsing and purchasing via computer now.
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Well, you don't need an actual computer right? Just a device with a non hampered web browser that can open a new window?

So, it appears that the Fire will have a non-neutered full on web browser. ...


Not exactly .... it has Silk. The Soy Browser.
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yeah i just took out two books on kindle

this is going to save me so much dough it's retarded.

i feel bad for the other companies.

amazon just TKO'd. the other guys. shedding a tear for sony.
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this is going to save me so much dough it's retarded.
How about using the word ridiculous....instead of retarded

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Old 09-30-2011, 06:09 AM   #96
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yeah i just took out two books on kindle

this is going to save me so much dough it's retarded.

i feel bad for the other companies.

amazon just TKO'd. the other guys. shedding a tear for sony.
Uh, I find it funny you say this as I've been checking out ebooks for the last couple of years with my Sony. Amazon is the newbie on the block, I still want epub to be the standard but certainly this slaps that eventuality in the face and extends Amazons single-vendor format and DRM.

It's definitely a coup by Amazon to pull this off -- particularly in this way such that they are still the gatekeeper while offering checkouts from 'your' local library.

I'm glad to see the expansion of ebooks in general, but I really am sick of the format wars, DRM, and walled gardens!
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To me $79 kindle and library offerings together is bigger than most people realize.
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Old 09-30-2011, 07:45 AM   #98
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To me $79 kindle and library offerings together is bigger than most people realize.
Agreed. This is gonna make it spread like wildFIRE.
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im actually going to my public library to get a new card (i moved 3 months ago and neglected to, though the friend that got my "Kindle Keyboard" as amazon calls it now, is regretting not waiting till now,

but at the time i dont see a need to swap my 3rd gen for a 4th gen,
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Sorry, if this is in the thread somewhere...

I was wondering if anyone knows what this means in terms of operating expenses for libraries? Do libraries now purchase both EPUB and KINDLE versions of books (along with dead tree)? If so, they must pay Overdrive (or whoever) a fee as well. Since e-books are non-transferable, does the library keep them forever?

Or does Overdrive (whoever) own the books? And lend the same paid copy to multiple libraries?

I imagine libraries have enough budget issues. Now they need to support books in 3 formats...
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Sorry, if this is in the thread somewhere...

I was wondering if anyone knows what this means in terms of operating expenses for libraries? Do libraries now purchase both EPUB and KINDLE versions of books (along with dead tree)? If so, they must pay Overdrive (or whoever) a fee as well. Since e-books are non-transferable, does the library keep them forever?

Or does Overdrive (whoever) own the books? And lend the same paid copy to multiple libraries?

I imagine libraries have enough budget issues. Now they need to support books in 3 formats...
The only part I have read about is that the licenses for the snooks are for a limited time, once that license expires, the library has to buy new licenses. & they buy only so many licenses, say 10, to be able to lend out. I remember reading also there was a big deal about the publishers doing this, renewing licenses, because it was just too expensive for the libraries. Unlike physical books, they never have to replace an ebook, it's never worn out or written on. Why would they put this restriction on libraries. So stupid & greedy.
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To me $79 kindle and library offerings together is bigger than most people realize.
Like apple does, I think amazon just raised & set the bar. I don't know how you compete with this. It's pretty awesome.
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Sorry, if this is in the thread somewhere...

I was wondering if anyone knows what this means in terms of operating expenses for libraries? Do libraries now purchase both EPUB and KINDLE versions of books (along with dead tree)? If so, they must pay Overdrive (or whoever) a fee as well. Since e-books are non-transferable, does the library keep them forever?

Or does Overdrive (whoever) own the books? And lend the same paid copy to multiple libraries?

I imagine libraries have enough budget issues. Now they need to support books in 3 formats...

Well, clearly they have "limited" copies, because many I see as checked out and you have to get on the hold/waiting list.

The thing I'm unsure about is whether the libraries choose specifically which books or if they somehow buy a 'license' from over drive for a certain amount/set of content. I do know there are significant difference in content/catalog for the two libraries I have access to, but both got Kindle books at the same time.
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I was wondering if anyone knows what this means in terms of operating expenses for libraries? Do libraries now purchase both EPUB and KINDLE versions of books (along with dead tree)?
No, they purchase a certain number of licenses for a particular eBook, and can then lend out that number simultaneously in any combination of ePub or Kindle versions.
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At my library (using Overdrive), I could see there was "1" copy of an eBook available to lend, and then see a choice of three formats (Kindle, ePub, and PDF). That suggests to me that the library licenses are not linked to format, but rather to copies available regardless of format.
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