Any news if Amazon plans on rolling out a Kindle 4.0 soon?

[soondai]

it is soondai (Korean sausage)

[snipenekkid]

Originally Posted by soondai

it is soondai (Korean sausage)

Isn't it actually soondae? But all I know is it's VERY TASTY....mmmmmm, sauage-y goodness...yum!! And I just finished lunch but it still sounds good and I would make room for some!! We don't have any Korean restaurants where I live though. We have a few Thai places and a couple Japanese restaurants but sure could use some good Thai food!!

Sigh, now I am hungry again...I hate you!! hahaha....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundae_(Korean_food)

[FF2]

Ah, a non-kosher version of:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kishka_%28food%29

[snipenekkid]

Originally Posted by FF2

Ah, a non-kosher version of:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kishka_%28food%29

you guys all are MEAN!! Now I WANT some of these tasty treats...hrummmppphhh!! I can smell those on a nice smoky BBQ right now, worse, I can tate them!!

I guess it's the Chinese Buffet & Mongolian BBQ again tonight. Not even close but it's sorta comfort food anyway.

[Sonist]

Originally Posted by karunaji

Indeed. And Amazon is facilitating them. Their lawyers along with many others irresponsibly support this outdated model.

Dude! Amazon sells globally and it's simply complying with the rights granted to it by the authors/publishers and with the various local laws under which it must operate.

What do you want them to do? Sell without authorization and get sued in multiple jurisdictions?

Do you really think they are happy to lose sales to local outfits, just so they can piss you personally off, and just so they can "support this outdated model?"

Originally Posted by soondai

the DX will never compete unless the price comes way down and the performance goes way up.

not too many people are going to shell out 300+ for it when full functioning tablets that size will soon be available for that price. I'm no iPad fan, but for 350 bucks you'd have to be crazy to buy a DX over a refurb iPad 1....

I have both. I like the iPad.

But I would not use the iPad as my daily ereader. It screws up my eyes, while the eink screen of the DXG is better than paper (IMO).

The DXG is the only large-screen reader with a Pearl screen. The only one. (At 9.7", it's still to small to read PDFs on, though.)

If someone came out with an 11" Pearl or better screen and better PDF support, I'd dump the Kindle immediately.

But for now, the DXG is the only game in town.

[ApK]

Yeah, the DX will keep it's niche for a while even if it DOESN'T improve it's price/performance ratio, because it's a big eink device with free 3G. But it probably WILL improve, too.

[karunaji]

Originally Posted by kindlekitten

so sorry about your bad luck and lack of attention to detail when exploring your Kindle purchase. I've traveled internationally with both the K1 and K2 (look ma! no wi-fi!) and had no problem getting my books.

False argument. Just because you can and are satisfied, doesn't mean that the proposed system is not socialist. In fact, all Kindle book buyers in foreign countries are paying surcharge for Amazon books so that you can you use your 3G Kindle internationally cheaply.

why don't you become the Latvian ereading champion, set your post Socialist needs and reviews and let the rest of the world carry on with reality

It would be funny if the US today wouldn't be much more socialist than Latvia. It is no joke.

[karunaji]

Originally Posted by Sonist

Dude! Amazon sells globally and it's simply complying with the rights granted to it by the authors/publishers and with the various local laws under which it must operate.

What do you want them to do? Sell without authorization and get sued in multiple jurisdictions?

Do you really think they are happy to lose sales to local outfits, just so they can piss you personally off, and just so they can "support this outdated model?"

It is not about some jurisdictions forbidding to sell certain books (Main Kamf, for example). It is about publishers artificially restricting rights and signing georestricted contracts between themselves.

I would expect Amazon to announce such practice as deeply flawed and unethical. Make protests and sometimes even stop carrying such books at all. And put links where readers can complain directly.

Or at least make a statement about georestrictions.

Amazon have no problem pulling out legal books that they consider unethical or at least not popularizing them (excluding them from top lists etc.). They have even been boycotting publishers for some time to fight for their principles. Georestrictions while legal are very unethical regarding world society's right to read that is even than business or legal norms. Amazon's complete silence means either ignorance or tacit approval.

[snipenekkid]

Originally Posted by karunaji

False argument. Just because you can and are satisfied, doesn't mean that the proposed system is not socialist. In fact, all Kindle book buyers in foreign countries are paying surcharge for Amazon books so that you can you use your 3G Kindle internationally cheaply.



It would be funny if the US today wouldn't be much more socialist than Latvia. It is no joke.

so, why do people in other countries need to give a flip? I mean that seriously, I don't care it's your country deal with it.

No ask if I wish it was not the case, sure, but it's not the problem of people outside your country to come wipe your nose and pat you on the head with a "there, there I'll make it all better" nor is it Amazon's job. The laws of your country determine all of this.

Have you bothered to investigate if Amazon has to pay the charges on every book no matter how delivered? Have you even considered that case? What other fees is Amazon required to pay in order to sell books to people in Latvia? As I say, it's nobody's problems but yours.

Sorry if this is harsh but really, what do you expect others to do for you? BTW, I fully understand the need to vent though so vent on ya whacky Latvianite!!

[wyndslash]

mmm...there are ways *looks around with shifty eyes*

[karunaji]

Originally Posted by snipenekkid

so, why do people in other countries need to give a flip? I mean that seriously, I don't care it's your country deal with it.

First of all, I am not speaking about my country or your country or about differences between countries at all. Why do you see things in such restrictive political perspective? You must be an American

No ask if I wish it was not the case, sure, but it's not the problem of people outside your country to come wipe your nose and pat you on the head with a "there, there I'll make it all better" nor is it Amazon's job. The laws of your country determine all of this.

I just commented that Kindle has some faults from being too closed and it has nothing to do with the laws of my/your/anyone's country.

Have you bothered to investigate if Amazon has to pay the charges on every book no matter how delivered? Have you even considered that case? What other fees is Amazon required to pay in order to sell books to people in Latvia? As I say, it's nobody's problems but yours.

I have and no, the $2 surcharge is not connected with selling books to Latvians. As in other EU countries, there is a VAT charged for purchases from Amazon but I am not talking about this.

Sorry if this is harsh but really, what do you expect others to do for you? BTW, I fully understand the need to vent though so vent on ya whacky Latvianite!!

I am sorry if the phrase "communist system" has disturbed American sensitivities. No analogy can be perfect but it is still true that closed content delivery model is very much like the Soviet economy (which was much stronger than most people think). Do not be afraid to say that if you consider it to be a good thing.

[charleski]

Originally Posted by karunaji

It is about publishers artificially restricting rights and signing georestricted contracts between themselves.

No.

It's about authors selling distinct geographic distribution rights so that they receive more money for their work. Parcelling out rights into specific, targeted groups is one of the basic business lessons for a content creator. Amazon can't sell a certain work outside a certain area because the publisher won't let them, the publisher won't do that because the author has only given them limited rights.

Stop blaming publishers for georestrictions! Authors do this because they make more money selling the book several times over than they would selling it only once, no matter how much a small number of readers may fume.

I've no idea what you think this has got to do with socialism, and I don't think you do either. This is about people making a buck, and increasing the amount of income they receive from a work. Please show me the section in Das Kapital that deals with maximising your return from an investment.

[wyndslash]

Originally Posted by charleski

No.

It's about authors selling distinct geographic distribution rights so that they receive more money for their work.

well, that's annoying

[karunaji]

Originally Posted by charleski

Stop blaming publishers for georestrictions! Authors do this because they make more money selling the book several times over than they would selling it only once, no matter how much a small number of readers may fume.

It is still publisher's decision to sign such contracts. And I doubt most authors really make such decision by themselves without advice of publishers and agents. Most authors are lucky to be published at all and it is publishers and other lawyers who are more influential and set the terms.

I've no idea what you think this has got to do with socialism, and I don't think you do either. This is about people making a buck, and increasing the amount of income they receive from a work. Please show me the section in Das Kapital that deals with maximising your return from an investment.

Georestrictions on ebooks can never maximize ROI unless there are certain intermediaries who distort the market. Georestrictions on digital products are ridiculous as it only increases piracy and diminishes sales. But that's not my biggest concern. It is the fact that some policy makers think that it is a good idea to decide what certain geographic groups can or cannot read for whatever reason.

[FF2]

While this has gone way beyond Amazon's 4.0 Kindle....

Can someone point out what created the distinction between the "point of sale" for ebooks (buyer's location) and those for "point of sale" for pbooks (seller's location)?

Is that the agreements between authors/publishers or was that a dictate of law or treaty or??

It really does seem crazy that a pbook can be sold and shipped anywhere while the same book but published as an ebook cannot. So international law, private contract or treaty?