What is the best color ereader tat is not crazy expensive?

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by shalym

Or...you buy the product that fits your wants and needs, and let others do the same. I know that I sound like a broken record, but your opinions are not equal to facts, and some people value other things than you do.

Shari

The OP wants a color Reader that's not too expensive. The color Reader recommended is more then the OP's budget.

[ottischwenk]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

The OP wants a color Reader that's not too expensive. The color Reader recommended is more then the OP's budget.

Wrong - he wanted one that wasn't crazy expensive; In addition, a budget limit looks different

are there any good ones under $400

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by ottischwenk

Wrong - he wanted one that wasn't crazy expensive; In addition, a budget limit looks different

Same difference.

[Quoth]

PocketBook InkPad Color 2 approx US $295. Might do text better than Kaleido 3.
Onyx Boox Tab Mini C approx US $ 445. Probably does images sharper than Inkpad Color 2

Both need front light or very strong ambient light and have terrible colour rendition, shades and performance compared to LCD / OLED.

May need to add sales tax and delivery charges. OP suggests under $400.

Crazy expensive depends on your assets / wealth / attitude.

Personally I'm happy to read on mono ink in my normal lighting I'd use for paper and use LCD for colour comics.

[ottischwenk]

Originally Posted by Quoth

PocketBook InkPad Color 2 approx US $295. Might do text better than Kaleido 3.

Unlikely - Kaleido plus has Carta 1000 as b/w basis, Kaleido 3 Carta 1200

Onyx Boox Tab Mini C approx US $ 445. Probably does images sharper than Inkpad Color 2

Not only that, Tab Mini C has Super Refresh Technology, which you can't judge because you don't know it

Both need front light or very strong ambient light and have terrible colour rendition, shades and performance compared to LCD / OLED.

The latter is not EInk and also needs lighting that shines directly in your eyes

[Sweetpea]

Originally Posted by tomsem

FWIW PocketBook InkPad Color 2 is now $295 (USD) - only $40 more than the InkPad 4 with the same screen dimensions. It has a faster CPU and more storage than the IP4.

Yes, it is not Kaleido 3, and thus a non starter for some.

For me, it is more of a sweet spot than Tab Mini C, which is not only $150 more, but has features I place no value in (note taking, Android). And I like PocketBook platform. I think the display would be good enough for me.

But I'm not really in the market to get anything in this class right now.

I was. I was going back and forth on the Inkpad 4 and the Color 2. The slight price increase wasn't too bad, so, I figured I might as well try the color version.

The Tab Mini C is nice, but absolutely not worth the extra money, for me, as I have a very good Android tablet already.

For me, the color is mostly a gizmo, I don't really need it. I just wanted it. Haven't really seen the screen in a bright environment, so I can't comment on that. But even on my One, I never turned off the light....

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by ottischwenk

also needs lighting that shines directly in your eyes

All color eink needs light from the device, it shines in your eyes no differently to LCD or OLED properly adjusted.

You see everything by the light shining in your eyes.

Originally Posted by ottischwenk

Unlikely - Kaleido plus has Carta 1000 as b/w basis

I thought it was Carta 1200 with a stripe filter. My mistake. However the stripe 100 x 300 might have subpixel addressing on text and the patterned 150 x 150 is unlikely to have subpixel. addressing. I'd need to see the same small serif font same size on both to be convinced the InkPad Color 2 isn't better for text. But for text a mono eink is far batter than either. The Inkpad Color 2 is worse for text than the Mini if it has no sub-pixel addressing for text (It only applies to text).

Also there is nearly no difference on Carta 1000 and Carta 1200 on mono with front light. The advantage of the Carta 1200 is with no front light, which is usually impossible with color eink indoors.

I rarely use the front light; only when light is too poor to read anything.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by ottischwenk

Unlikely - Kaleido plus has Carta 1000 as b/w basis, Kaleido 3 Carta 1200Not only that, Tab Mini C has Super Refresh Technology, which you can't judge because you don't know itThe latter is not EInk and also needs lighting that shines directly in your eyes

Can you please explain what Super Refresh Technology is? Thanks.

[ottischwenk]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Can you please explain what Super Refresh Technology is?

Handling ghosting and acceleration of the screen using extra hardware.

I no longer see refresh flickering and the remnants of ghost images (on all EInk devices) that are mostly still present in the white background (when reading) disappear here within a very short time (~ 1 second)

I've been so spoiled by this technology that I don't want to continue using any of my other devices (Boox, Kindle, Kobo, Tolino).

And this technology is only available with 7.8 inches or 10.3 inches / 300 ppi in color, whereby there is no difference in quality to b/w Carta 1200 screens when illuminated (with the same background brightness).

[ottischwenk]

Originally Posted by Quoth

All color eink needs light from the device, it shines in your eyes no differently to LCD or OLED properly adjusted.

You see everything by the light shining in your eyes.

Only there is a proven difference in quality between being shined on directly and light being reflected from a matt surface.

With the first I get conjunctival problems, the latter doesn't matter.

[cellaris]

PocketBook has just announced the InkPad Color 3 with Kaleido 3. The price in Europe is 319 € (with promotions it can be reduced to 280 €). It will be available in November.

https://pocketbook.ch/en-ch/news/poc...olor-3-news-ch

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by cellaris

PocketBook has just announced the InkPad Color 3 with Kaleido 3. The price in Europe is 319 € (with promotions it can be reduced to 280 €). It will be available in November.

https://pocketbook.ch/en-ch/news/poc...olor-3-news-ch

The OP wants a reader that's not crazy expensive. This is crazy expensive.

[cellaris]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

The OP wants a reader that's not crazy expensive. This is crazy expensive.

Expensive?

[nabsltd]

Originally Posted by cellaris

Expensive?

US$300 for a 7.8" eReader is crazy expensive, even if it has color support.

It's not big enough to handle comic books well, which is pretty much the #1 reason for color in an eReader. You're far better off getting a 10" eInk device without color (good size for comics and other fixed layout) or a tablet ($120 for an 8" device, and around $200 for a 10-11").

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by nabsltd

US$300 for a 7.8" eReader is crazy expensive, even if it has color support.

It's not big enough to handle comic books well, which is pretty much the #1 reason for color in an eReader. You're far better off getting a 10" eInk device without color (good size for comics and other fixed layout) or a tablet ($120 for an 8" device, and around $200 for a 10-11").

The price is in Euros.