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			Thanks everyone for all the suggestions. Mom-in-law is rather fed up with "technology" right now, but good to know there are lots of options if she decides to give ebooks another try.
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Jon -- While it remains theoretically possible to download books directly from B&N's website, it is a hassle that Amazon doesn't trouble you with -- that is what people are trying to point out to you.
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Last I saw you could download with a “hidden” URL (that a Greasemonkey script helpfully could provide), or you could use the PC app.  Basically, it's not B&N's intent to allow you to download and sideload, but you can get around it for the time being.  That's not acceptable to me, given that in the past you could download, and since they've signalled their intent (no sideloading of B&N content), why would I want to continue with them? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Yes, I used to go into the store almost every week.  I would take my Nook and read the "More in Store" articles.  Then later took advantage of the ability to read ebooks in the store.  In addition to shopping for the books I still like physical copies of.  Now I seldom go and the experience is tainted by my annoyance at the Nook side of things.  It's really sad because they are the only game in town here since Borders closed.
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 Now it's just as easy to clean B&N eBooks as it is to clean Amazon eBooks. Both use an app to download and both use the same plugin to remove the DRM. But, it is possible that B&N will pull some new stunt that will change this. But for now until they do, I don't mind buying from B&N as I do have some credit.  | 
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			I haven't hooked my nook up to my PC in a while, so does anyone know if B&N changed the way the books are downloaded to the nook ST/ST Glow?  I know in the past I could pull the epub files right from the device and back them up to my PC.   
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 And in the area of direct-download-from-cloud, Amazon is superior. No one is denying you can certainly still DeDRM your B&N books. But, and this is the big but, B&N no longer has the advantage over Amazon (particularly when it came to linux users, but in general anyone who doesn't want to install more bloatware).  | 
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			You made me look.  I'd forgotten my Nook Color also had access to the B&N book files.  But I think my Nook Touch and Nook HD have them stored where you need root to get to them.  I have them all rooted though (except my 1st edition).  Another reason I liked Nooks...because they were so hackable.
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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