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Old 01-12-2011, 08:07 AM   #76
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It's a great reader, but it's crap for pdfs.
Apps would be great for it, like:

- Text editor/Code view/Word processor
- Samba client (copy/save files when connected to lan via wifi/USBnet and save edited files to network shares)
- External monitor (X could work over USBnet/Wifi, or some other mechanic)
- Chat/IM Client, even if it's only for like "Amazon Book Clubs" don't exactly need IRC here
- Customizable welcome screen with weather/news(rss)/recent items


I have a DX and I use it all the time while working at my computer to look at code or when working with reference books, so these features would be great. .
Hmmm, I disagree on considering the DX as crap for PDFs. Actually, it is the only one with biggest eink screen, only as big as one of the Pocketbook models I think.

About your desired features:

-You don't need a text editor to read a book. Instead, able to save notes
-Samba? for what! Actually, that opens the door for viruses (Windows side)
-External monitor? you serious? I see no reason for that either.
-Chat? When you were reading a normal on a pbook, did you have a netbook handy and you were chatting all the time? This is just a distraction
-Customized welcome screen? same that chat... another distraction

I understand that people want and desire more stuff on their devices but we should keep in mind that an ereader is that, an ereader. Asking for more will simple alter the main purpose of the device and convert it on a tablet or netbook. Weight, size, price, etc, will increase considerably after those additions and then majority of people won't buy the device.

To me, it looks like you are looking or need a tablet. On your particular case maybe a Nook Color or Pocketbook IQ would be better.
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Old 01-12-2011, 01:18 PM   #77
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Unfortunately threads like this go down the drain pretty fast, but the main point should remain - modern devices are firmware/software updatable, and a lot/most customers expect it, especially the younger generation that uses smartphones, netbooks, etc. Please do show me one popular device that has received no updates.

By your logic, nobody should buy Kindle 3, because there have been issues reported with it. Instead everybody should wait for 3.0.FINAL and then evaluate. That makes no sense to me - you expect a new product to have some growing pains, and expect that it will be fixed. It is 21st Century, and everything runs on flash memory.

Since Kindle DXG came out close to Kindle 3, it looks like a bigger version of Kindle 3, and it MAKES SENSE for it to have same/better PDF support than Kindle 3, people will expect Amazon to spend the effort and update it.

Up to this point, Amazon has been responsive and took care of their Kindle customers well. My investment in DXG was partially motivated by the fact that Amazon stands behind their products. That's why this is so disappointing to me and a lot of other customers.
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Old 01-12-2011, 01:20 PM   #78
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Please do show me one popular device that has received no updates.
Sony practically never issue firmware updates for their readers. There were a couple for the older ones, but nothing since. If you think Amazon's poor for firmware updates, you've never dealt with Sony .
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Old 01-12-2011, 02:53 PM   #79
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Up to this point, Amazon has been responsive and took care of their Kindle customers well. My investment in DXG was partially motivated by the fact that Amazon stands behind their products. That's why this is so disappointing to me and a lot of other customers.
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Hmmm, I disagree on considering the DX as crap for PDFs. Actually, it is the only one with biggest eink screen, only as big as one of the Pocketbook models I think.

About your desired features:

-You don't need a text editor to read a book. Instead, able to save notes
-Samba? for what! Actually, that opens the door for viruses (Windows side)
-External monitor? you serious? I see no reason for that either.
-Chat? When you were reading a normal on a pbook, did you have a netbook handy and you were chatting all the time? This is just a distraction
-Customized welcome screen? same that chat... another distraction

I understand that people want and desire more stuff on their devices but we should keep in mind that an ereader is that, an ereader. Asking for more will simple alter the main purpose of the device and convert it on a tablet or netbook. Weight, size, price, etc, will increase considerably after those additions and then majority of people won't buy the device.

To me, it looks like you are looking or need a tablet. On your particular case maybe a Nook Color or Pocketbook IQ would be better.
Well, I think of it as more of a TABLET than a E-READER, and use it to get work done. . . But perhaps I'm different from your typical conformist product sponge *#@& consumer.

Again samba client would allow you to remotely open and edit files on your network (like when I'm working with code/shell scripts). This would in no way "open the door for viruses." If you don't know what a program/service is/does, don't comment on it. Note that I didn't mention SMB server/samba suite.

As far as using the device as an external monitor.. Why the hell not? They sell plenty of USB only monitors. The I-pod line has been able to be used as a monitor through simple tweaking over USB. The DX has the same screen size as many popular netbooks, so using it as another display would be very useful in some situations.
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Sony practically never issue firmware updates for their readers. There were a couple for the older ones, but nothing since. If you think Amazon's poor for firmware updates, you've never dealt with Sony .
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It's getting disgusting. I have been waiting for new update and have not heard any thing about it. Also it seems like no dx graphite user really care about this.

I am wondering if anyone tried to contact amazon customer support to ask if there is any plan to update firmware for dx graphite user.

It is too bad to read articles about firmware update for Kindle 3 users because it seems like dx graphite is abandoned by amazon.
Poor baby. Has anyone tried to contact....? Why haven't you? It might beat sitting around feeling sorry for yourself.

I bought my KindleDX for what it would do and not for what it might to at some future date with a firmware update from Amazon. And, it still does what I bought it to do.
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By your logic, nobody should buy Kindle 3, because there have been issues reported with it. Instead everybody should wait for 3.0.FINAL and then evaluate.
Fixing bugs is one thing; adding features, another. I expect the first but only hope for (and don't make purchasing decisions based upon) the second.
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Well, I think of it as more of a TABLET than a E-READER, and use it to get work done. . . But perhaps I'm different from your typical conformist product sponge *#@& consumer.

Again samba client would allow you to remotely open and edit files on your network (like when I'm working with code/shell scripts). This would in no way "open the door for viruses." If you don't know what a program/service is/does, don't comment on it. Note that I didn't mention SMB server/samba suite.

As far as using the device as an external monitor.. Why the hell not? They sell plenty of USB only monitors. The I-pod line has been able to be used as a monitor through simple tweaking over USB. The DX has the same screen size as many popular netbooks, so using it as another display would be very useful in some situations.
I know what SAMBA is, I don't use it, I use NFS instead. You don't need SAMBA at all between Linux boxes unless you're planning to share something with a Windows box and is 100% necessary; NetBios and Windows Share systems sucks. And yes, you can spread viruses with SAMBA inside your network and/or devices.

If you want samba, being able to plug a monitor, this, that, get a tablet my friend or a neetbook. Your idea of a perfect ereader is the similar to the one giving by people who want a multipurpose cellphone/camera, one device for everything.You do not see professional people taking pictures with a cellphone, do you?

A device which does a lot of things or try to do a lot of things, will not do something good but everything in an average way.

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If the hardware is capable of doing a thing it should do it.
This isn't the 1980s where we walk around with brick sat phones, we use multipurpose devices.

My cellphone has a notepad/calendar/stopwatch/mp3player/camera/video recorder/webbrowser/ereader.. and it also works as a phone, yet I use all of these features when it is convenient for me, and it does everything well enough. I don't need to "make calls like a superstar," I just need to get done what I want to do, and more functionality is better.

These features are all software additions to the phone, and not required for its operation, same thing with the e-reader, it's just a matter of implementing them.

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Wow, so I chime in after a few month's hiatus only to see the "promised K3 to KDX update is coming" discussion still continues.

Sheesh AMZN, cut the DX owners some slack and give them webkit and better pdf support already! This reeks of a crappy software company...not something I would associate with Amazon...really a shame, IMO.
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