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And while there are consumers that are upset about the books disappearing there are a TON more that are on the boycott MM bandwagon and are all fired up about it. Those author blogs are skewing the reality of just how many Amazon customers are pissed at MM. Last edited by Guns4Hire; 02-03-2010 at 11:46 PM. |
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That Scalzi guy is deluded. He's drunk the kool-aid.
Here's some actual data from Kobo: http://blog.kobobooks.com/2010/02/04...=Google+Reader |
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Now if the publisher can sell that many books as $12 plus why would they have a start price of $10 it would make no financial sense. Much better to sell as many as they can at more than $10 and then sell as many as they can at $10. |
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The "Public Lending Right" in the UK (the payment that authors get when their book is borrowed from a library) removed an author or publisher's right not to have their book in a library, that's correct.
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In the US and Canada (and anywhere else), can a library not just go to the bookstore and buy a book, then put it on their own shelves?
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Thank you! I'd not realized that - and have to admit, it disgusts me. I'd always thought "library editions" were just those that had better quality covers/spines/manufacturing so that they'd hold up to harder use.
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I'm certain that (public, gov't funded) libraries in the US don't face specific restrictions on what books they can have--they just might have contracts and regulations to deal with how they buy them, in order to give the publishers a record of what books are popular at libraries.
It's possible that they don't buy from the local bookstore because they get wholesale pricing direct from the publisher. They *could* stock any books, but some might be outside of the range of interests of their local community, or just too expensive: an import of a (presumably nifty) book not published in the US might cost $150, and they might instead prefer to spend that money on five or six other books. Libraries might also have some restrictions in how they deal with "adult" materials, however those are defined by the local community. |
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As I understand it though, "library editions" cost significantly more. Much like the DVDs in rental shops aren't bought at local wal-mart/costco prices, but often at a much higher fee. Maybe this has changed though.
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Ebooks are different that physical books. Anyone (including, but not limited to the library) can buy a physical book and put it in a library. The same is not true for ebooks.
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Just because you're allowed to purchase it doesn't mean it's available. And Macm has decided not to make their ebooks available for lending. (I tend to think this is a violation of the first sale doctrine, and would love to see a clever programming house figure out their own DRM method and start loaning out Macmillan ebooks, just to watch the sparks fly.) |
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I actually spoke to an Intellectual Property lawyer about this. The difference between physical books and ebooks is that the very act of downloading an ebook means that you're making a new copy of the ebook. The first sale doctrine only applies the the original product: I can't, for example, go out and buy a physical book, make copies of it and pass around those copies. This is why the legality of lending ebooks is not as straightforward.
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