Lets talk backing up...........again. - Page 6

desertgrandma · 12-15-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by acastillo

And also very timely.

I am starting a business next March and this thread has certainly convinced me that I need a plan for backing up data.

Glad that your "recovery" was complete!

Outstanding. Remember.......the more the better!

Sweetpea · 12-15-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

The new Western Digital "Passport" range of external drives all seem to be getting "hammered" in reviews because they use a "microUSB" connector which, apparently, in many cases is very loose, and results in the drive losing its connection if you so much as touch the cable. That's why I go for ones with a nice, solid, mini USB.

Hmm, must remember that... I'm very happy with my current "Passport", but that one has a mini USB...

Catire · 12-15-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by desertgrandma

I:m doing both.

Going Carbonite, AND an exernal HD. I spend more than that on crap monthly.

Someone please give me some feedback on this one, or suggest another?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...0656593&sr=1-6

I bought two similar Toshiba drives about a year ago and they can sometimes be a pain in the rear end. You HAVE to use a short usb cable (the one it comes with) with them or they wont start sometimes or they might stop when transfering data.

I personally have not had any problems with the 4 WD external drives I´ve owned but I hear they have included some some crappy backup software in a non-user accessible partition that cant be erased on the new drives.

Maybe you could find one of the "old" WD drives or a Seagate drive.

menevets · 12-17-2009, 03:53 PM

I backup all my data files onto two external HDs and keep a recent image of my OS, Vista (spit, spit) on one of the externals.

I use SyncBack to do the differential backups.

Offsite, I encrypt my most important files and store them on AWS, Amazon's Simple Storage services - less than $1/month.

When I have the time and money, I will backup to a Drobro and keep an external HD at my parents' place.

I have two external backups of my Mac (music, video) as well. No offsite - have to figure a way to do that. Buy yet another HD probably.

menevets · 12-17-2009, 03:58 PM

The Drobo is sweet: http://www.drobo.com/products/drobo.php

mvisconte · 12-17-2009, 10:19 PM

dgm, I just have to say...

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Originally Posted by desertgrandma

I spend more than that on crap monthly.

I can seriously say, I haven't seen that one. Is that a spin-off from Progressive Farmer? I subscribed to that for a while in the 80's, then MoEarNews, lastly Backwoods Home. They talk a bit about politics in each issue, so I guess that section would be considered a separate subscription to "Crap Monthly".

Oh, and I did read several issues of Water Conditioning and Purification Magazine (dealing with Filtration and Separation, chemical treatement, etc.), and, IIFC, the International Journal of Sedimentation Research, and some industry journal on turbidity.

None of this has anything to do with backing up, unless you count what you REALLY want to do if you wind up treading on a broken cover over a septic tank.

I'm all for the USB drives (for the about and type of stuff I do) but I really like the NAS idea to put all bulk data in a common location that I can reach from just about anywhere... oh, and a raided file system based on compact flash (or even USB) drives. Hah... listen to me, sounding like I know something. A few UTube videos and I sound like a rocket scientist.

HarryT · 12-18-2009, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mvisconte

I'm all for the USB drives (for the about and type of stuff I do) but I really like the NAS idea to put all bulk data in a common location that I can reach from just about anywhere... oh, and a raided file system based on compact flash (or even USB) drives. Hah... listen to me, sounding like I know something. A few UTube videos and I sound like a rocket scientist.

NAS works very well indeed (I have a 6TB Buffalo NAS), but if you're storing seriously large amounts of data (eg video or music) then you really do need a Gigabit wired Ethernet network to take full advantage of it.

One real benefit of NAS, which I didn't know about when I bought mine, is the ability to use a NAS box as a media server to stream music, video, etc, all over the house. Make sure that your NAS box is "DLNA certified" (DLNA is the standard for media streaming) and it's all seamless.

desertgrandma · 12-22-2009, 02:34 PM

Okay, so I've had my laptop back for about a week now. Here's what I'm doing.

The 'puter guy put my harddrive in a case. Then he put a new hard drive in the laptop, and re-installed Vista and drivers, etc with the provided disks.

THEN he plugged into the old hard drive, and copied my old desktop folders, and my documents.

Brought the laptop and old hard drive back, and told me to play with laptop for a while, and to see if there is anything that he missed that I just had to have. (And to keep my hands off the old harddrive.......)

The first thing I did was install Carbonite, using the cust50 code to get one year for $27.95. (IGood until the end of December!) Took about 24 hrs to completely back everything up, and seems to be working seamlessly.

It was a fast, simple download, even for someone who's a scaredy-cat of new things, and I did it all by myself!

I noticed the Calibre library was there, as was the Calibre icon, but it was empty. A simple step to reinstall Calibre, which synced with the library, and voila! All books safe and sound.

All pictures and documents recovered. ('whew!)

Had to reinstall a few programs, but nothing serious. (Thanks Leep!)

Now, he's coming back this week sometime, I'll tell him everything is okay, and he'll wipe my old hard drive.

Then we'll download this program,

http://www.handybackup.com/

which is what he recommended, and will show me how to set it up......and I"ll have both onine and onsite back up programs.

This may not be the ideal solution for everyone, but its working for me.

I may screw up things in the future, but I'll be able to recover the important stuff.

God willin' and the creek don't rise...........

Oh.....and I found out his favorite kinds of candy, and there's a box waiting here for him....

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank everyone for all the good suggestions. While I was going back and forth between online or the physical back up, I realized both was better!

kennyc · 12-22-2009, 02:43 PM

Wonderful news DGM!

omk3 · 12-22-2009, 02:49 PM

Everything's back in order, and even better than before!
Well done, desertgrandma, excellent news!

daffy4u · 12-22-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by desertgrandma

The first thing I did was install Carbonite, using the cust50 code to get one year for $27.95. (IGood until the end of December!) Took about 24 hrs to completely back everything up, and seems to be working seamlessly.

Mine is *still* completing it's first backup which started the day after I posted the discount code. It was around 70% complete this morning.

Glad all is well again in laptop land!

kennyc · 12-22-2009, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by daffy4u

Mine is *still* completing it's first backup which started the day after I posted the discount code. It was around 70% complete this morning.

Glad all is well again in laptop land!

How much data is that?

daffy4u · 12-22-2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

How much data is that?

I don't know, I'll have to wait until I get home to look. It does included the backups I made of the laptop and netbook to my desktop. I have 1.75 TB in the desktop with multiple redundant external hard drives.

I have slowed down the process by trying to better organize my desktop, so I've been moving a lot of files around and creating various partitions for specific items (eBooks, music, work stuff, Kindle stuff [but not Kindle books themselves]...).

desertgrandma · 12-22-2009, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by daffy4u

Mine is *still* completing it's first backup which started the day after I posted the discount code. It was around 70% complete this morning.

Glad all is well again in laptop land!

Yes..........I imagine since mine was basically 'empty' except for the books and pictures,....it went a lot faster.

Now, tho, every time I add abook or file, it snaps it right up

So duck once you are finished, the rest will go quickly!

HarryT · 12-23-2009, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by daffy4u

Mine is *still* completing it's first backup which started the day after I posted the discount code. It was around 70% complete this morning.

Does your ISP not impose any limits on traffic levels? They are pretty much universal here in the UK - eg with my ISP the limit is 60GB of data in a "rolling" 30 day window.

12-17-2009, 03:53 PM	#79
menevets Connoisseur Posts: 88 Karma: 750010 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: PRS-300/Kindle 4 basic/iPad/iPod Touch/iPhone/Nexus 7	Two External HDs I backup all my data files onto two external HDs and keep a recent image of my OS, Vista (spit, spit) on one of the externals. I use SyncBack to do the differential backups. Offsite, I encrypt my most important files and store them on AWS, Amazon's Simple Storage services - less than $1/month. When I have the time and money, I will backup to a Drobro and keep an external HD at my parents' place. I have two external backups of my Mac (music, video) as well. No offsite - have to figure a way to do that. Buy yet another HD probably.

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menevets Connoisseur Posts: 88 Karma: 750010 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: PRS-300/Kindle 4 basic/iPad/iPod Touch/iPhone/Nexus 7	The Drobo is sweet: http://www.drobo.com/products/drobo.php

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desertgrandma Enjoying the show.... Posts: 14,270 Karma: 10462843 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Arizona Device: A K1, Kindle Paperwhite, an Ipod, IPad2, Iphone, an Ipad Mini & macAir	Okay, so I've had my laptop back for about a week now. Here's what I'm doing. The 'puter guy put my harddrive in a case. Then he put a new hard drive in the laptop, and re-installed Vista and drivers, etc with the provided disks. THEN he plugged into the old hard drive, and copied my old desktop folders, and my documents. Brought the laptop and old hard drive back, and told me to play with laptop for a while, and to see if there is anything that he missed that I just had to have. (And to keep my hands off the old harddrive.......) The first thing I did was install Carbonite, using the cust50 code to get one year for $27.95. (IGood until the end of December!) Took about 24 hrs to completely back everything up, and seems to be working seamlessly. It was a fast, simple download, even for someone who's a scaredy-cat of new things, and I did it all by myself! I noticed the Calibre library was there, as was the Calibre icon, but it was empty. A simple step to reinstall Calibre, which synced with the library, and voila! All books safe and sound. All pictures and documents recovered. ('whew!) Had to reinstall a few programs, but nothing serious. (Thanks Leep!) Now, he's coming back this week sometime, I'll tell him everything is okay, and he'll wipe my old hard drive. Then we'll download this program, http://www.handybackup.com/ which is what he recommended, and will show me how to set it up......and I"ll have both onine and onsite back up programs. This may not be the ideal solution for everyone, but its working for me. I may screw up things in the future, but I'll be able to recover the important stuff. God willin' and the creek don't rise........... Oh.....and I found out his favorite kinds of candy, and there's a box waiting here for him.... I'd like to take this opportunity to thank everyone for all the good suggestions. While I was going back and forth between online or the physical back up, I realized both was better!

12-22-2009, 02:43 PM	#84
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